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Received: by minnie.vk1xwt.ampr.org with NNTP id AA7122 ; Mon, 18 Jan 93 10:47:58 EST Xref: sserve comp.unix.wizards:28253 comp.org.eff.talk:11682 comp.org.usenix:3115 comp.unix.bsd:10107 Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!odin!chet From: chet@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Chet Ramey) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.org.usenix,comp.unix.bsd,alt.suit.att-bsdi Subject: Re: BSDI/USL Lawsuit -- More Bad News for Human Beings... Date: 18 Jan 1993 18:10:49 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH (USA) Lines: 24 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <1jerr9INNpc8@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <BETSYS.93Jan15143516@ra.cs.umb.edu> <1993Jan17.203539.6063@s4mjs.uucp> <v0r38cs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: odin.ins.cwru.edu In article <v0r38cs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com> vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes: >rumor had it that the Ma Bell inventors of streams were, to >put it mildly, less than enthused about how System V STREAMS turned >out, which might have something to do with why they were using BSD >based source in (I think it was) the 8th Edition. Your chronology is a little bit off. The 8th edition used 4.1 BSD as it's code base. 4.1 BSD was released in 1981. streams (as Dennis has said, `streams means something different when shouted') was implemented on this system and first described in the 1984 BLTJ UNIX issue. AT&T took the streams framework and turned it into STREAMS for SVR3, which came out around 1986. You're certainly right that the inventors of streams were less than enthused about STREAMS. Chet -- ``The use of history as therapy means the corruption of history as history.'' -- Arthur Schlesinger Chet Ramey, Case Western Reserve University Internet: chet@po.CWRU.Edu