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Received: by minnie.vk1xwt.ampr.org with NNTP id AA579 ; Fri, 05 Feb 93 05:02:05 EST Newsgroups: alt.suit.att-bsdi,comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!ames!sgi!igor!jbass From: jbass@igor.tamri.com (John Bass) Subject: George William Herbert's Challenge - Part 5 (corrections and request) Message-ID: <1993Feb4.013613.24271@igor.tamri.com> Organization: DMS Design References: <106742@netnews.upenn.edu> <1993Jan27.215738.12384@igor.tamri.com> <1kbtpf$e9h@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 93 01:36:13 GMT Lines: 46 Ok I've had it too ... which is why I even started this mess. My source knowledge largely stops at SVR3.2 ... I've had over two dozen people TELL me that Sun/BSD code is in SVR4 complete with UCB COPYRIGHT notices ... some of which I assumed to know what they were talking about. The problem with this damn netnews is that people don't provide their qualifications and just post away ... it makes it damn hard to figure out who is blowing steam and who is tring to clearify the issue. In addition, I don't currently have a client with a source license past SVR2 to even be able to look for myself. ***************** I am the first to say I am wrong when shown so, and please do so, for I hate to make an ass of myself due to other peoples mis-information. ***************** Now can someone who knows clear this up? > In article <1993Feb2.204838.16992@igor.tamri.com> you write: > > >An even stronger point is that the Sun OS is a much enhanced BSD port, and > >what you find in SVR4 is Sun OS code that was provided by Sun to USL. > >USL did the right thing in making sure that ANY file that contained > >anything possibly derived from BSD by SUN contain the BSD copyright. > > > >It's sad the UCB didn't extend this same recognition to USL/AT&T/BTL > >in the Net2 and 386BSD releases. > > I just can't take this any more. > > The System V Release 4 code DOES NOT HAVE UCB COPYRIGHT NOTICES. > Look at the netinet code. Look at the file system. > > You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. > > Keith Bostic are there any other key points that need to be clearified before we proceed? John Bass DMS Design