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From: cgd@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou)
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Subject: Re: George William Herbert's Challenge - Part 5 (corrections and request)
Date: 3 Feb 93 18:58:58
Organization: Kernel Hackers 'r' Us
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In-reply-to: jbass@igor.tamri.com's message of Thu, 4 Feb 93 01:36:13 GMT

In article <1993Feb4.013613.24271@igor.tamri.com> jbass@igor.tamri.com (John Bass) writes:
=>Now can someone who knows clear this up?
=>
=>> In article <1993Feb2.204838.16992@igor.tamri.com> you write:
=>> 
=>> >An even stronger point is that the Sun OS is a much enhanced BSD port, and
=>> >what you find in SVR4 is Sun OS code that was provided by Sun to USL.
=>> >USL did the right thing in making sure that ANY file that contained
=>> >anything possibly derived from BSD by SUN contain the BSD copyright.
=>> >
=>> >It's sad the UCB didn't extend this same recognition to USL/AT&T/BTL
=>> >in the Net2 and 386BSD releases.
=>> 
=>> I just can't take this any more.
=>> 
=>> The System V Release 4 code DOES NOT HAVE UCB COPYRIGHT NOTICES.
=>> Look at the netinet code.  Look at the file system.
=>> 
=>> You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.
=>> 
=>> Keith Bostic

Hey John...

a few points of etiquette for you:
it's not considered very nice to post people's e-mail to the net.
(if keith posted that, i sure as hell can't find it,
and if grep on our campus news server won't do it, i can't think
of what will...)

also, it's not considered 'a good thing' to post muddled and confused
articles, proclaiming them to be the "be-all and end-all" where
truth is concerned.  specifically, you've shown complete
ignorance w.r.t. the various origins and lineages of the
various pieces of code floating around, particularly 386bsd and BSD/386...

also, misquoting, to support your point of view is flat out unethical,
and several people have pointed out the fact that your Numerical
Recpies quote excluded a very relevant portion of the copyright
info that the authors of N.R. provided...



<chuckle>  and i'd think that keith, of all people, would
know whether BSD copyright notices have managed to find their way
into SVr4...


chris
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Chris G. Demetriou                                    cgd@cs.berkeley.edu

"Sometimes it is better to have twenty million instructions by
        Friday than twenty million instructions per second." -- Wes Clark