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From: ghelmer@dsuvax.dsu.edu (Guy Helmer)
Subject: Re: Patchkit Patches 00077 through 00082 Now Available
Message-ID: <1993Feb16.161621.14592@dsuvax.dsu.edu>
Keywords: 386bsd patch patchkit signal abort tape scsi tn3270 groff rwho floatn
Organization: Dakota State University
References: <C2A94F.D1H@sugar.neosoft.com> <1993Feb12.185329.27215@coe.montana.edu> <cproto.729819913@marsh>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1993 16:16:21 GMT
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In <cproto.729819913@marsh> cproto@cs.curtin.edu.au (Computer Protocol) writes:

>osynw@gemini.oscs.montana.edu (Nathan Williams) writes:

>>In article <C2A94F.D1H@sugar.neosoft.com> karl@NeoSoft.com (Karl Lehenbauer) writes:
>>>I have uploaded patches 00077 through 00082 to:
>>..
>>Due to some communication problems, I wasn't able to test these patches.
>>Hopefully we can get our communication problems worked out, but in the
>>meantime.  No offense to Karl, but you should not apply these patches to
>>the patchkit.  

>No offense to Nathan, but I'm competent enough to verify submitted
>patches myself. I appreciate his work and its certainly valuable to
>the majority of 386bsd users. But there are still a large number of 
>people out there who don't want to blindly apply his "unofficial-
>official" patches. I'm collecting posted patches myself and apply
>them if needed after verifying that they don't break anything else.

Go ahead and patch away at your own system, but don't get all upset just
because the rest of us depend on an organized patch kit managed by one or
two people.  Don't whine about patchkit patches if you don't intend to
depend on the patchkit for the patches you use.  I'm sure you could have
gotten the patches from Karl or whomever else had them if you had asked
politely.  Nathan didn't keep the patches from the user community; he
disagreed with the distribution format, to prevent any possible dilution
of the quality and organization of the patch kit. 

Nathan, thanks for managing the patchkit and the bug list thus far, and
best wishes to the new manager. 

>So please stop this somewhat arrogant and god like behaviour and
>don't withhold valuable work done by others (i.e. the signal 6 fix).

[ your favorite expletive here ]
-- 
Guy Helmer, Dakota State University Computing Services - ghelmer@dsuvax.dsu.edu