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Received: by minnie.vk1xwt.ampr.org with NNTP id AA1800 ; Tue, 23 Feb 93 14:58:49 EST Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Path: sserve!manuel.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!rpi!batcomputer!cornell!uw-beaver!newsfeed.rice.edu!rice!news.Rice.edu!rich From: rich@Rice.edu (Richard Murphey) Subject: Re: Supported video adapters In-Reply-To: jeffc@netcom.com's message of Sat, 20 Feb 1993 04:13:38 GMT Message-ID: <RICH.93Feb20221203@omicron.Rice.edu> Sender: news@rice.edu (News) Reply-To: Rich@Rice.edu Organization: Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering, Rice University References: <1993Feb20.041338.3173@netcom.com> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1993 04:12:03 GMT Lines: 88 In article <1993Feb20.041338.3173@netcom.com> jeffc@netcom.com (Jeff Cohen) writes: Which video adapters are supported by X-windows for 386BSD? In particular, are any S3-based cards supported? Here's a somewhat out of date cost/performance analysis of graphics adapters. The bechmarks for the S3 based cards a going up as software and hardware development proceed, but the conclusions are the same. Please note that the S3 cards are *not* supported by XFree86 yet. Rich Which graphics card supported by XFree86 or XS3 should I get for the highest performance per dollar value? For under $100, the Tseng ET4000 is reasonable. For $200 or so an Actix Graphics Engine gives six times the performance of the ET4000. XFree86 supports et4000, et3000, pvga1, gvga, ati and tvga8900 chipsets while XS3 supports only the S3 chipset. The rankings by xstones are: Model Chip Xstones Price Ratio GraphicEngine VLBus S3 805 88K $220 2.5 $/k GraphicEngine 32b S3 801 64.1K $210 3.3 $/k F1280 (most recent) S3 924 48.6k $210 4.3 $/k GraphicEngine 70 S3 911 37.4K ? ? $/k F1280 (first model) S3 911 24.6k $170 6.9 $/k ATI VGA Wondercard XL ATI ? $130 ? $/k ET4000 32bit VLBus ET4000 19.0k $159 8.4 $/k ProDesigner II ET4000 11.6k $130 11.2 $/k Tseng ET4000 11.6k $88 7.6 $/k Trident 8900C TVGA8900 5.1k $58 11.4 $/k 911, 924 and 928 chips use VRAM while the 801 and 805 use DRAM. VRAM performance degrates less at high dot clock refresh rate and screen sizes. Although the 80x performance is higher it may not necessarily scale as well as the 9xx to large displays. The following performance ratings are relative to a value of 10000 for a monochrome SUN 3/50 running X11R3 communicating via unix sockets. A machine with double the performance will therefore get 20000 and a machine with half the performance will get 5000. These benchmarks were taken on various PC hardware, so the results cannot be quantitatively consistent. We should not rely on them quantitatively, but Until we have all the cards available in one place this is the best we can do. machine p comm line fill blt text arc cmplx xstone Sparc2 gx 8 local 244821 44250 50912 435875 7763207 85816 97803 Gr.Eng.32 VLBus 8 local 141256 66431 40214 169812 3637764 132418 88451 Gr.Eng.32b 13MHz bus 8 local 107908 42632 31590 117562 2975512 92352 64061 Gr.Eng.32b 6MHz bus 8 local 102774 45363 27382 113125 2485082 97712 60897 F1280 924 486/33 8 local 111640 30450 21935 103812 2871708 62222 48559 Gr.Eng.70 13MHz bus 8 local 103781 21777 16997 83875 2580416 46797 37496 X11R5 S3 X386 8 local 107087 22917 15007 56375 2522818 44117 34032 Sparc1+ cg3 8 local 121149 13219 10735 134750 2112958 22418 25901 F1280 911 8 local 56746 16390 10463 53625 1425872 34444 24625 ET4000 486/50 VLBus 8 local 123308 13529 5951 138187 1941774 18954 19008 ET4000 486/33 8 socket 88671 9562 3372 97281 1377355 11307 11621 Sun3/50 (R3) 1 socket 10000 10000 10000 10000 10000 10000 10000 Trident 8900C 8 socket 55957 2503 1990 45937 705011 4248 5123 line = solid-line, dashed-line, wide-line and rectangle performance. fill = solid-, tile- and stipple-rectangle-fill performance. blt = invrects, screencopy, scroll, and bitmapcopy performance. arc = arc- and filledarc performance. p = color/greyscale planes. '1' means monochrome. Actix GraphicEngine 23b $210 Palo Alto Micro 415-493-8209 Actix GraphicsEngine32+ 2MB $243 CSI 800-733-9798 Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 1Mb+Sierra $210 OS Computer 800-938-6722 ATI VGA Wondercard XL 1Mb $129 Harmony Computer 800-441-1144 Orchid ProDesigner IIs 1Mb+Sierra $130 Dee One Systems 800-831-8808 Tseng ET4000 1Mb $88 OS Computer 800-938-6722 TVGA8900 Trident 8900C 1MB $58 Dee One Systems 800-831-8808 ET4000 32bit VLBus 1Mb $159 PC Importers 800-886-5155 Actix GraphicEngine $? NTD 800-998-1699 Actix GraphicEngine $? Actix Systems 800-927-5557 Actix GraphicEngine $? DPS 800-669-8194 XFree86 does not support any Diamond boards beyond the old Speedstar+ models. We cannot support their newer boards in the forseeable future because the interface to their proprietary clock synthesizers is a 'trade secret' protected by non-disclosure licensing restrictions. They could threaten legal action even on an independently developed interface and this has scared many contributors away. Our sincere advice is to avoid Diamond.