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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!convex!convex!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!agate.berkeley.edu!cgd From: cgd@erewhon.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.bugs Subject: Re: The patchkit (was Re: Excessive Interrupt Latencies) Date: 27 Mar 93 12:17:02 Organization: Kernel Hackers 'r' Us Lines: 80 Message-ID: <CGD.93Mar27121702@erewhon.CS.Berkeley.EDU> References: <GENE.93Mar15115756@stark.stark.uucp> <1993Mar16.093636.29923@gmd.de> <g89r4222.732307558@kudu> <C409MC.n1D@agora.rain.com> <1obts0$doq@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <C4H1M1.3L5@sleeper.apana.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: erewhon.cs.berkeley.edu In-reply-to: raz@sleeper.apana.org.au's message of Fri, 26 Mar 1993 01:03:36 GMT I OWN TOO MANY HATS, BUT NONE OF THEM KEEP MY HEAD WARM! In article <C4H1M1.3L5@sleeper.apana.org.au> raz@sleeper.apana.org.au (Roland Turner) writes: >Re: comp.os.386bsd.patches > >Given the circus that surrounded creation of comp.os.386bsd.*, I am >not optimistic about a new group (although even if I was, we are looking >at approx 2 months), how about comp.os.386bsd.announce? Not strictly in >its charter I know, but it IS moderated and a patch release IS a "launch" >of general interest to the 386bsd community at large. (wearing my group-creator's hat...) umm, yah, a new group would take at least 2 months, even given that all went smoothly. and there wasn't too much weirdness when somebody (me... 8-) finally settled down to DOING IT. >>Obviously, this is a fair amount of work, and I can't do it all by >>myself. Anyone wishing to help out (or even just say `Go for it!') is >>welcome to send me mail. > >Go for it! (Chris Demetriou (sp?): care to comment?) (wearing my moderator's hat...) GO FOR IT... but wait 2 weeks. the world as we know it will have changed by then -- (at least one) interim release should have hit the fan by then, so the "base" will have moved... also, i *do* consider .announce a good place to post patches, or announcements of patches. (WELL TESTED patches, that is. or calls-for- testers of major patches/packages.) i'd like to see .patches, but a need has to exist first. as it is, i'd like to see more stuff on .announce... >Silly question time: Why isn't cgd's com driver distributed as a patch? >(Is it?) (wearing my author's hat...) because it's a complete and total piece of CRAP. the driver that it's a hack on was a piece of crap, too. bruce evans' driver is wonderful, apparently, and i'd like to get my thoughts integraged into it, when i have the chance... however, i don't currently have the chance. >>c) If the patchkit mechanism weren't *braindead*, I wouldn't have to >>back anything out. > >If you apply a bad patch - you have to back it out one day :-) if you apply a bad patch, then you can simply "back it out" by applying _another_ patch which does the equivalent of removing the first. while it's ugly, it does guarantee a monotonically-increasing set of patch numbers... 8-) things to look forward soon, from various fronts: a list of lots of bugs for you folks to bang on... some sort of interim release. (if it's one that i do, it'll definitely have "weekly source patches" and probably monthly binary sets...) <sigh> chris who's like to crawl into a big hat, and sleep... 8-) -- Chris G. Demetriou cgd@cs.berkeley.edu MENTALLY CONTAMINATED and proud of it!