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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!agate.berkeley.edu!cgd From: cgd@erewhon.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.bugs Subject: Re: Periodic Posting, Current patchkit patches for next release Date: 8 Apr 93 08:22:47 Organization: Kernel Hackers 'r' Us Lines: 34 Message-ID: <CGD.93Apr8082247@erewhon.CS.Berkeley.EDU> References: <1pvn14$4dv@agate.berkeley.edu> <C55I18.1Hv@agora.rain.com> <1993Apr8.150617.26893@coe.montana.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: erewhon.cs.berkeley.edu In-reply-to: nate@cs.montana.edu's message of Thu, 8 Apr 1993 15:06:17 GMT In article <1993Apr8.150617.26893@coe.montana.edu> nate@cs.montana.edu (Nate Williams) writes: => My opinion is, if you don't like the way things are being done, do it => yourself (ala Chris's project). It's more work than many folks realize, => so before you go and ask for your pet patch in the patchkit, hold off => a bit on it, and think about how much work it would be to have it working => perfectly on every box that you can think of, and then multiply that amount => of time by 5 to get things done because of the patchkit overhead. i can't agree with Nate more; seriously, give Rod a break... not too many people want the job of javelin-catcher, and Rod volunteered... (think about it this way, too: how many fixes have you seen out of Rob in the time he's been coordinator... how about from WFJ himself? ok... 8-) even if you don't play by "the rules" (i.e. you don't care if you get everything right the first time), it's still a *huge* job. trying to get 386bsd users to go in a general direction, or to produce a fix, or something, on time, is (thanks to jtkohl for the analogy) like herding cats... <chuckle> if you'd like to do it yourself, let me just say that i heartily recommend CVS... 8-) chris -- Chris G. Demetriou cgd@cs.berkeley.edu "386bsd as depth first search: whenever you go to fix something you find that 3 more things are actually broken." -- Adam Glass