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Xref: sserve comp.sys.amiga.hardware:37245 comp.sys.mac.hardware:42940 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:50778 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:873 comp.sys.sun.hardware:7336 comp.sys.next.hardware:3796 comp.os.386bsd.questions:1713 comp.os.linux:34775 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!network.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!nobody From: mikeb@umbc.edu (Mike J. Bell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.workstations,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.linux Subject: Unix Workstation Decision Followup-To: comp.sys.workstations Date: 18 Apr 1993 07:43:27 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus Lines: 77 Sender: Mike J. Bell Distribution: world Message-ID: <1qresvINN34i@elana01.acslab.umbc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: elana01.acslab.umbc.edu Summary: 486 box with NEXTSTEP First of all: Thank you everyone who replied. As you can well imagine, I got nearly one hundred responses, so I figured I'd thank you all here instead of individually. The tallies: I got one vote for A/UX, which runs on the Macintosh. I got several nays for Commodore's 3000UX system. Most people agreed that SGI's were nice, and very very expensive. Some (devoted) Sun users nearly insisted that I try to find a used Sun, say a 3/60 or 3/80. About a dozen people told me how they love their NeXT...only now NeXT is out of the hardware business (see below). And most of the other 85+ people said: Get a 486 box, and run some version of Unix that's available either in the Public Domain or commercially. ============= And so I weighed my options. What stood out, in my opinion, was that there were several different versions of Unix available on one system: the 486 (PC) architecture. If I bought a Sun, I'd have to use SunOS. If I bought a (used) NeXT, I'd have to use NeXTSTEP (see below). Ad nauseum. But with a PC, I can run Linux, which is a small user-friendly (?) flavor that uses shared libraries to cut down on volume, although I hear its networking abilities aren't up to speed with 386bsd, another PD (==free) port (which takes up a lot more space). I can purchase BSD386 (commercial product) if I choose. There are several other commercial packages available. So, what I've found out (after pricing systems, etc.), is that I can get a really good Unix workstation for as little as ~$2500. Including source code! Or, for ~$3500-4000, I can get an unbelievable EISA bus 486-66DX2 system, fully blown, and run single user BSD386. What I'm really excited about, though, is NEXTSTEP for Intel. NeXT changed into a software company only, and they are releasing their OS for PC's. I've used NeXT's before, and I absolutely loved them. Everyone who wrote me about NeXT (or NEXTSTEP) commented on the developer's environment, and how well designed the whole package is. =========== So, my choice is to: 1) Wait for the mail on Monday, so I can read what NEXTSTEP's system requirements are 2) If I'm wowed on what they say, I'll buy a system that fits into their criteria 2a) Get NEXTSTEP 3) If I'm wowed, but I can't afford it yet (most likely), I'll buy a system that fits their criteria 3a) Get Linux or 386bsd, as a temporary learning experience so I can save up for NEXTSTEP 4) If I'm not sufficiently wowed (least likely), I'll buy a system that is slightly less blown out (like a 486DX 25, ISA) and put Linux or 386bsd on it. ================ Again, thanks to everyone around the net.