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Xref: sserve comp.os.os2.programmer:11174 comp.os.coherent:9085 comp.os.linux:36068 comp.os.mach:2791 comp.os.minix:21955 comp.periphs:3552 comp.unix.bsd:11906 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:2504 comp.os.386bsd.development:574 Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.coherent,comp.os.linux,comp.os.mach,comp.os.minix,comp.periphs,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.os.386bsd.development Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!jmonroy From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) Subject: QIC NEWS Vol.1 Special Edition #2 Message-ID: <jmonroyC62JE8.9E7@netcom.com> Keywords: QIC NEWS special edition Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 02:10:56 GMT Lines: 331 Released +----------------------------------------+ QQQQQQ II CCCCCC QQ QQ II CC N E W S QQ QQ II CC for 386bsd-Linux-Mach-OS/2 QQ QQ II CC (and sometimes minix & coherent) QQQQQQ II CCCCCC Vol.1 Special Edition #2 QQ (r) Quarter Inch Cartridge +----------------------------------------+ News about QIC-40/80 From the desk of the quasi-editor-in-chief: "Just because I am numbering these things don't get the idea that I am going to do any more of these". "QIC" is a registered trademark of the Quarter-Inch Cartridge Drive Standards, Inc. (QIC). UNIX is a trademark of USL, a division of Novell (last I heard). This publication is not affiliated with "QIC" or "QIC DATA NEWS". All comments, issues, and errors are only attributable to the quasi-editor-in-chief. Thanks: Jennifer Gordon for helping on her time off. *=======================================* | Tabloid Contents | *=======================================* | <M>__ NEWS FLASH | | <M>__ Meaningless Dribble. | | <N>__ NEXT ISSUE | *=======================================* hint: search for "<?>__" <M>__ NEWS FLASH The Political Maelstrom Continues ================================= A constant fury has ensued since the posting of several articles: 1. "Flow Chart Symbols (using ASCII)..", 2. "QIC NEWS vol.1 Special Edition #1", 3. "Ramblings about the Convention", 4. "HANG THE ENGINEER -- tort of consequences", 5. "Ramblings about the Convention - translated", In #1, a table of symbols was posted in hope of creating a possible new form of communication. In #2, the editors were trying to relate the frustrations of getting a tape drive by using articles from other people. In #3, jmonroy@netcom.com attempted to communicate the need for a cross platform development of the QIC-40/80 tape drives. In #4, in what seemed to be a retaliatory expression, an Engineering theological point was argued. In #5, another attempt was made at communication in a adhoc translated form of #3. Comments have been rampant, in example: "You are wasting my bandwidth!" , "Are you on Drugs?", "You need counseling!". Most of these comments involve "Ramblings about the Convention", which is considered, by some, to be psycho-babble. Here are the facts: =================== cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose), in a heroic manner, has taken on the sole responsibility of retribution for the omnipressed. Here are his comments: From: cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose): "Please try and restrict your postings to the one or two groups, in which there may be interest. Wading through long and irrelevant cross postings becomes increasingly irritating." At the present, Mr. Rose is continuing his crusade by returning to jmonroy@netcom.com all his postings in an almost computer-like automated mode. The returned parcels include the usual over-sized mail header, the original posting, and a one-liner: "Please do not cross-post to inappropriate news groups." Meanwhile, on the comp.os.386bsd.* newsgroups, discourse continues on the by-line "The Great Prophets" in #2. Alluding to alleged inactivity and supposed apostolistic attitude, QIC NEWS has received these comments: From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie(): "Though you may not think so, I mean this question in all seriousness and hope (but not necessarily expect) to get a serious answer; also note that I'm not making a public query of this, since it would probably only be detrimental to all concerned. My question is, literally, 'Are you on drugs?' :: [deleted] :: I've known more than my fair share of drug abusers... :: [deleted] :: Since these can also be signs of an offbeat personality, a deliberately unique style of experimental writing, or just plain perversity, :: [deleted] :: If you do, I wish you the best of luck in shaking it. If not, then all I can say is that you do a very good imitation!" Other People that were incensed by the entire set of issues may form their own revolt. Here are some comments from them: From: garrett@garnet.berkeley.edu (Garrett D'Amore) : "I don't know who else I speak for, but this whole thread seems rather irrelevant to ... -- at least from my perspective. Please either ... :: [deleted] ::" From: rick@ee.uwm.edu "Please, your rambling only fuels the 'split this newsgroup' fire which smolders continuously on ..." QIC NEWS, in an almost defiant nature, is returning the on-slaught with quips, puns, and psycho-babble. Here are some comments: >> > Wait, I'm starting to diverge again. >> >> Please, save us from mass hysteria! >> I am glad this line was received with the intent it was written. >> > Oh yeah, survival! Survival may call >> > to mind some notion of an ending (like we are hoping >> > for this talk), but hundreds of... >> >> Ending? He says ending! >> I think you are following along very well. >> > I propose we use comp.periphs >> > for our discussions _or_ >> > cross post & label all articles: [QIC-40/80]. >> >> I'd rather you use alt.back.of.the.moon! >> Or how about alt.ego.jmonroy? >> I don't think you need to go to that much trouble on my account. >> > While (!convention) >> > convention = articles ( >> > :: [deleted] :: >> >> How about: >> >> while( author(article) == jmonroy ){ >> flame(article); >> delete(article); >> } >> Hey... you might want to copyright that early! Could make you a million! >> However, unless your aditude improves a bit, >> I am gonna stick you in my kill file. >> AHHHHH.... I will die from this surely.. please don't!! >> Hoping that things will improve with your mind, >> *I* certainly hope so. >> Is he by any means related to the more famous Jesus >> who rambled about some 2000 years ago? >> Hmm... another compliment! WOW!!!!... In the future, I must write more in this style. On the sidelines, some other individuals add their comments: From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) "This is my favorite posting of the DECADE. Talk about one hell of an RFD." From: Frederick E Gray <fgray@cardinal.ncsc.org> "You've been getting so much crap lately that I'd like to express my opinion :: [deleted] :: There are few good examples of technical humor and yours is one. You obviously missed a great career as a humorist but I'm sure that the engineering/CompSci profession has gained from literature's loss." From: jliukkon@cc.helsinki.fi (Juha-Matti Liukkonen) "Duh. I've gotta hand it to you, Jesus (wow - I've always wanted to say that :) that this was either one of the most creative or most idiotic posts I've seen in a while .." From: scott allen long <scottl@engin.umich.edu> "I'd like to say that although this might seem strange, I actually understood the meaning and intent of your original article. In fact, I was about to do something similar. You just saved me the flames =-) What can I say; most of us here are engineers, and engineers just aren't poets!" From: t14@clark.edu Subject: Re: HANG THE ENGINEER -- tort of consequences "You did a good job writing it... Usually I see this quality of writing in rec.poems or some such group." Continuing, there are other parties wishing to remain neutral that we must report on: From: nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou): "No, he's probably just an AI program run amok from some secret Microsoft laboratory." Finally, the one-liners in this event go to: From: Rafal <rkb55989@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Ramblings about the Convention - translated I know English is my second language, but this makes absolutly NO sense.. How in God's name do references to popsicles, childhood, and phallic symbols relate to tape drives or floppy controllers?? What do Freud [Fraud?], dirty sex, and losers have to do with this project? I seem to have missed the link. No... You diverged at the very beginning... By now you're going off on tangents-of-tangents-of-tangets... If you really want to make it fun, increase your signal to noise ratio... If you're really into putting 6 different meanings into everything, start your own branch of psychiatry... What the hell does my girlfriend have to do with the FDC project? Meandering, pointless and psychotic come closer to the point... If you ramble, you cannot communicate with anyone.. AND YOU DO RAMBLE! <M>__ Meaningless Dribble. "A constant rumor that the 'NET' has lost 50 points in the IQ has Authorites investigating as to the cause." -Anson "The right to rebel is an elemental human right, just as the right to repress rebellion is an elemental public right." -Today's Revolution: Democracy -Ferdinand E. Marcos "Most mammals mate in daylight, Most birds too." -SF Chronicle; grab bag Before the Fire: WACO - We Ain't Coming Out. After the Fire: WACO - We Are Charbroiling Ourselves. <N>__ NEXT ISSUE o.... 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