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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.announce:46 comp.os.386bsd.questions:2170 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!agate!usenet From: "Andrew Cornwall" <Andrew@oti.on.ca> Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.announce,comp.os.386bsd.questions Subject: FAQ: 386BSD/NetBSD Compatible tape drive list Followup-To: comp.os.386bsd.questions Date: 3 May 1993 19:08:42 -0700 Organization: Object Technology International, Inc. Lines: 277 Sender: cgd@agate.berkeley.edu Approved: 386bsd-announce-request@agate.berkeley.edu Message-ID: <AndrewMon3May1993201612EST@oti.on.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: agate.berkeley.edu These tape drives have been reported as working (or not working) on 386BSD or NetBSD, either in articles on USENET or in response to previous postings. If you know any more details, want to point out errors, know another tape drive works (or doesn't), have any suggestions for additions/changes to the FAQ, or anything else useful, please send your reports to: andrew@oti.on.ca (Andrew Cornwall) or rsk@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Bob Kemp) PLEASE HELP TO UPDATE THIS LIST BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AND NEW INFO. IN RETURN, WE WILL POST UPDATES AND TRY TO MAKE THE LIST AVAILABLE TO ANYONE INTERESTED. IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: This list is not guaranteed to be 100% correct. We don't know much about tape drives as yet, so we are only collating information provided by others. By getting feedback on this list, we hope to improve it into an FAQ. EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THANK-YOU: Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this list. Without your help, it wouldn't exist! ------------------------------------------------------------------- MANUFACTURER CONTACTS: Archive is a Maynard company bought by Conner Sales: +1 714 641 0279 Technical: +1 800 227 6296 [informant: mq8qc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu (KARAGEORGIOU ANGELOS)] ------------------------------------------------------------------- COMPATIBLE TAPE DRIVES: Format of each entry is as follows: Name: {name of the device; if you're reporting, please be as specific as possible} Capacity: {Maximum size of the device} Approx Cost: {Roughly what you paid} Interface: {How it talks to the machine - SCSI, PC bus, etc} Controllers: {What controller you're using - Adaptec 1542B, etc} Informant: {Who says it works} Comments: {Anything good or bad you feel like saying} Name: Archive 2150 Capacity: Approx cost: Interface: SCSI Controllers: Informant: ejh@slustl.slu.edu (Eric J. Haug) Comments: works well with both the driver in the distribution kernel and julians' SCSI drivers. Name: Archive Python 4??? Capacity: 2GB on 90m tape Approx Cost: US$1149 Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 1542b Informant: admerlev@cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (me 8-)) Comments: nice device!!!, works like a charm, tar w/ original scsi-driver plus variable block length patch, under DOS: GTAR, ASPIBIN (ASPI-TAR), PCTOOLS 8.0, COREL-SCSI Name: Archive [exact model unknown] Capacity: 60Mb Approx Cost: US$1800 list price (4-5 yrs ago) Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: sjg@melb.bull.oz.au Comments: [Came with sun386i. It has an] emulex board [that] acts as an embedded controller (like SCSI disks have). The drive is good for 5Mb per minute I believe which is also what my 1542b is set for. Certainly the tape steams _very_ well, much better than it ever did on the sun386i! Name: Cipher Model 540 Capacity: 45M/60M (probably/hopefully) Approx Cost: Loaned to me in `vintage appearance' (Much dust) - No idea ! Interface: SCSI 1 Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: Julian Stacey <stacey@guug.de> Comments: Shows promise, Cant yet call it truly usefull though: The Good Bit: I have seen it stream constantly on 386bsd. The Bad Bit: I can't use it as a usefull drive because it keeps dropping out with errors. The fault does not lie in the media, & most probably not with external power supply or scsi cable - I'm working on it. Name: Cipher ST-150F Capacity: 150Mb Approx cost: US$300 (incl. interface) Interface: QIC-02 Controllers: Cipher Informant: hideki@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp (YOSHIDA Hideki) Comments: works well with blocksize <= 4b Name: COMTEK Gigatape 1200 4mm external DAT Capacity: 1.2 Gb Approx Cost: US$800 Interface: SCSI 1 Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: Rich@rice.edu Comments: Uses formatted, fixed blocksize tapes. Only partial success writing about 400Mb so far. Name: Sankyo ST525 Capacity: 525 Mbyte Approx Cost: 6000 SEK (US$850) Interface: SCSI (SCSI-2) Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: jonas@carmen.volvo.se (Jonas Lagerblad) Comments: everything works allright except for one crash The SCSI bus seemed hang after running "dump 0uf - /dev/rsd0a | gzip --best | dd of=/dev/rst0 bs=64k" for approx 1 hour. If I skip the compression everything works perfectly. (I am using Julian's SCSI driver) 386BSD-0.1 patchkit 0.2 patches 0-110 Name: Tandberg 3600 series Capacity: Approx cost: Interface: Controllers: Informant: fredriks@austin.ibm.com (Lars Fredriksen) Comments: IN DEVELOPMENT as far as I know. Not working yet? Name: Tandberg 3660 Capacity: 250 M Approx cost: Interface: Controllers: Informant: Per Anders Olausson <pao@cd.chalmers.se> meidinge@ps2zenger1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de(Thomas Meidinger) Comments: DC6250, DC6150 (not tested) and DC600A [by pao] Name: Tandberg 3820 5 1/4" HH internal QIC 525 SCSI streamer Capacity: up to 520Mb (depending on media) uncompressed Approx cost: (I bought mine two years ago--it wasn't cheap :-) Interface: SCSI-1/2 Controllers: I used the AHA1542B Informant: tmh@first.gmd.de (Thomas M. Hoberg) stacey@guug.de (Julian Stacey) Comments: Works well with both the driver in the distribution kernel and julians' SCSI drivers. Reads all QIC media (tested QIC 40/60/120/150/525) Writes QIC 120/150/250/320/525 (120/150/525 tested) Includes a 256k buffer. 2 rw speeds: 83k/s for QIC<320, 200k/sec for 320+ Occasionally the file system can't keep up at 200k/sec on backups (small files), somewhat more often on restores. The drive can directly seek to any block on the tape, so in theory at least with the appropriate device drive you could mount a file system on it (you better keep fragmentation low :-) As you can guess, I am EXTREMELY happy with it. [tmh] The Good Bit: It streams constantly without error (~40mins for 525M write @ 60K blocking). Tape drive shares bus with 3 SCSI-2 Seagate drives also OK with a SCSI-1 Micropolis 1684-7. The Bad Bit: We (several us of using these TDC3820s on different hardware) have undergone an eerom + eprom autodensity upgrade to allow 150M writes (previously could only read 150M tapes +r&w 525M); this known as Revision 04908, Done 92 08 28. There is some kind of block size problem that prevents us reliably exchanging 525M tapes, 150M seems OK, problem is tape hardware oriented I believe, not 386BSD specific. Problem pre-existed the 150M write capability upgrade. A friend with same 386bsd + TDC3820 + 1542A cant read my tapes, neither can a PCS (M68000 based) computer with a TDC3820 [stacey] Name: WangDAT 3200 Capacity: 1Gb (advertised 4-8Gb w/ compression) Approx cost: US$1200-$1300 approx Interface: SCSI Controllers: Informant: conklin@talisman.kaleida.com (J.T. Conklin) cgd@postgres.Berkeley.edu Comments: Works great with Julian's SCSI drivers and an Adaptec 1742... (I use it to do my dumps, and I've actually checked and made sure the restores work... 8-) [cgd] Name: Wangtek 5099EN Capacity: Approx cost: Interface: Controllers: Informant: 386bsd.FAQ Comments: Name: Wangtek 5099SC24, this is a QIC drive (same mechanical drive as 5099EN24) with a QIC24 to SCSI board by wangtek full height Capacity: 60Mb w/DC600A, 100Mb w/DC6250 Approx cost: Used as is drives US$25.00/each, refurbs ~US$100.00 Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: rgrimes@agora.rain.com Comments: works well with both the driver in the distribution kernel and julians' SCSI drivers. Very old full height driver readily availiable in the surplus market. I know where there are 50 or so of these for $25.00/each as is, they are pulls from old workstations. Name: Wangtek 5150EQ Capacity: Approx cost: Interface: Controllers: Informant: 386bsd.FAQ Comments: Name: Wangtek 5150ES Capacity: 250Mb Approx cost: Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: berry@max.IN-Berlin.DE (Stefan Behrens) Comments: [With original 0.1 SCSI ...] it streams constantly and works without any errors. The tape drive is the only device on the SCSI bus. It works great with the original as drivers. But with Julians new st stuff there are a lot of problems. I can read from the tape but writing usually does not work! Name: Wangtek 5525ES Capacity: Approx cost: US$600, CDN$1000 Interface: Adaptec 1542B, Adaptec 1742 Controllers: SCSI Informant: bky@eco.twg.com (Brian Yasaki) andrew@noware.ocunix.on.ca (Andrew Cornwall) Comments: Writes QIC120, 150, 250, 525. Reads QIC24 as well (untested). Works with the distribution kernel. END OF COMPATIBLE TAPE DRIVE LIST ========================================================================== Andrew Cornwall, OTI Support Object Technology International, Inc. 2670 Queensview Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K2B 8K1 voice:(613)820-1200 fax:(613)820-1202 support@oti.on.ca -- Please send submissions for comp.os.386bsd.announce to: 386bsd-announce@agate.berkeley.edu