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From: veit@mururoa.gmd.de (Holger Veit)
Subject: Re: So you say you want an interim release of 386bsd? (What to do?)
Message-ID: <1993May6.133359.7640@gmd.de>
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Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 13:33:59 GMT
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In article <C6K7B5.7B3@space.physics.uiowa.edu>, ljg@space.physics.uiowa.edu (Larry Granroth) writes:
|> Chris G. Demetriou (cgd@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
|> : NetBSD has the same attitude toward GPL'd code as does 386bsd,
|> : and perhaps even a stronger one.
|> 
|> : As long as i'm in "control" of NetBSD, there will be:
|> : 	(1) No GPL'd code in the kernel
|> : 	(2) No GPL'd code in libc
|> : 	(3) GPL'd code added to the standard tree only
|> : 		where no adequate free replacement is presented.
|> . . .
|> If Holger or anyone else would like to produce a GNUified NetBSD (gnuBSD
|> (not GNUBSD)) I would be thrilled.  Frankly, I had hoped that NetBSD
|> was taking the course described by Professor Veit above.
I am sorry, I just don't have the time and man power to manage that.
Chris already mentioned that the NetBSD support is a full time job for
several people (I am again speaking for NetBSD :-)), and furthermore, there is
already enough confusion with 386bsd-0.1, -0.1.5, -0.1 with patchkit X.Y.Z,
-0.2-vaporware, and NetBSD-0.8, so that I am quite reluctant to
add another derived system.
But I would have considered it as a natural consequence of proceeding
with NetBSD to GNUify certain parts. GNUifying the kernel would be something
to discussed, but utilities and libc could be a step into a direction of
getting more compatibility with e.g. Linux.
Since this is apparently not the direction, the serious question arises
what NetBSD is really good for, besides being an upgraded set of the
outdated bindist/srcdist/etcdist distribution, which shouldn't be 
underestimated. But the first announcement of NetBSD implies that the
distributors want to go further than this and do not intend to accept
everything Bill seems to have in mind with 0.2 and later. To me it looks
a bit like the revenge of the 4.4BSD people against Jolitz (which might
be said of 386BSD with a different sign as well). I hope I am wrong...

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