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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!ira.uka.de!gmd.de!mururoa!veit From: veit@mururoa.gmd.de (Holger Veit) Subject: Re: So you say you want an interim release of 386bsd? (What to do?) Message-ID: <1993May6.133359.7640@gmd.de> Sender: veit@mururoa (Holger Veit) Nntp-Posting-Host: mururoa Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany References: <CGD.93May4032535@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU> <C6K7B5.7B3@space.physics.uiowa.edu> Date: Thu, 6 May 1993 13:33:59 GMT Lines: 40 In article <C6K7B5.7B3@space.physics.uiowa.edu>, ljg@space.physics.uiowa.edu (Larry Granroth) writes: |> Chris G. Demetriou (cgd@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU) wrote: |> : NetBSD has the same attitude toward GPL'd code as does 386bsd, |> : and perhaps even a stronger one. |> |> : As long as i'm in "control" of NetBSD, there will be: |> : (1) No GPL'd code in the kernel |> : (2) No GPL'd code in libc |> : (3) GPL'd code added to the standard tree only |> : where no adequate free replacement is presented. |> . . . |> If Holger or anyone else would like to produce a GNUified NetBSD (gnuBSD |> (not GNUBSD)) I would be thrilled. Frankly, I had hoped that NetBSD |> was taking the course described by Professor Veit above. I am sorry, I just don't have the time and man power to manage that. Chris already mentioned that the NetBSD support is a full time job for several people (I am again speaking for NetBSD :-)), and furthermore, there is already enough confusion with 386bsd-0.1, -0.1.5, -0.1 with patchkit X.Y.Z, -0.2-vaporware, and NetBSD-0.8, so that I am quite reluctant to add another derived system. But I would have considered it as a natural consequence of proceeding with NetBSD to GNUify certain parts. GNUifying the kernel would be something to discussed, but utilities and libc could be a step into a direction of getting more compatibility with e.g. Linux. Since this is apparently not the direction, the serious question arises what NetBSD is really good for, besides being an upgraded set of the outdated bindist/srcdist/etcdist distribution, which shouldn't be underestimated. But the first announcement of NetBSD implies that the distributors want to go further than this and do not intend to accept everything Bill seems to have in mind with 0.2 and later. To me it looks a bit like the revenge of the 4.4BSD people against Jolitz (which might be said of 386BSD with a different sign as well). I hope I am wrong... -- Dr. Holger Veit | INTERNET: Holger.Veit@gmd.de | | / GMD-SET German National Research | Phone: (+49) 2241 14 2448 |__| / Center for Computer Science | Fax: (+49) 2241 14 2342 | | / P.O. Box 13 16 | Three lines Signature space | |/ Schloss Birlinghoven | available for rent. Nearly DW-5205 St. Augustin, Germany | unused, good conditions