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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!wupost!uwm.edu!ogicse!henson!nyssa!mtbaker!wobble!dlu From: dlu@wobble.uucp (Doug Urner) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: Funding 4.4BSD Development Message-ID: <1992Jun27.165905.27527@wobble.uucp> Date: 27 Jun 92 16:59:05 GMT Article-I.D.: wobble.1992Jun27.165905.27527 References: <79@ampr.ab.ca> <1992Jun26.021947.28286@gateway.novell.com> Organization: dlu UNIX Consultants Lines: 38 terry@thisbe.npd.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) writes: >For what I would use the source for (teaching and reference, as well >as a basis for derivative works), BSDI simply doesn't cut it. [stuff omitted] >But I`m not going to buy it if I can't, 1 year down the >pike, show everything to a CS student, or have an undergraduate port >it to a VAXStation 3100 as a 3 quarter project. I'm curious. How do the license terms from BSDI prevent you from "show[ing] everything to a CS student" or from doing a port to another machine (assuming you are willing to pay BSDI the $200 for a right to copy)? One of the most valuable things that the CSRG provided was *leadership*. They were willing to bite the bullet and say "no" when it was necessary. The result was a coherent release (not to mention a smaller kernel :-). In the brave new post-CSRG world someone else or somebodies else will need to provide that service (or we will need to attain new levels of discussion and co-operation on the net (or at least in these groups)). Otherwise I fear the result will show the effects of entropy and SVR4 will start looking clean and tidy. I am more than willing to pay BSDI for the service (and their expertise) of acting as the architects of post-CSRG "BSD" Unix. I'd even be happier to be part of figuring out how to work together to maintain the coherence of the CSRG releases. -- Doug Urner, dlu@wobble "They tear down our comrades like leaves from a tree, dlu UNIX Consulting leaves from a tree, leaves from a tree, but the Bellingham, WA tree still stands, its roots locked to the land." 206/676-5759 -- Song of the Exile, Barry Guilder