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From: fox@graphics.cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: Re: Choosing a Unix like OS for a pc
In-Reply-To: cmaeda+@cs.cmu.edu's message of 29 Jun 93 16:01:45 GMT
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In article <C9E4J4.Fsw.1@cs.cmu.edu> cmaeda+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Maeda) writes:
   >And to give another one credit: I believe that the original Oberon system
   >(windowing OS, OO-variant of Modula-2-compiler...) was able to recompile
   >itself in the matter of a few seconds. (CPU NS32032 or similar).
   >Of course this is a minimalistic working environment, nedding only a few
   >100k in toto. (If I remember right, about 250k, including compiler,
   >editor and loader). BTW, one of the persons to credit is Niklaus Wirth,
   >and I've forgotten the name of the other one.

   What a breakthrough!  If you want your kernel to compile twice as
   fast, use a compiler that's twice as dumb or leave out half the
   functionality.  You guys should write a paper for usenix.

I believe this is called the "New Jersey style" of programming.  This
is as opposed to the "Cambridge style".  I wonder how long it takes to
compile Plan 9 on a 386 laptop?

-david