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Xref: sserve comp.os.minix:22410 comp.os.386bsd.misc:550 comp.os.linux:45881 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!dumbo.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: mcintosh@dumbo.cc.utexas.edu (aubrey mcintosh) Newsgroups: comp.os.minix,comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.os.linux Subject: Re: Re: Choosing a Unix like OS for a pc Date: 30 Jun 1993 21:13:27 -0500 Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 50 Message-ID: <20th87$q0q@dumbo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <C9E4J4.Fsw.1@cs.cmu.edu><20sscl$brc@usenet.mcs.kent.edu> <C8wC29.9qq@world.std.com> <201f9p$kkv@klaava.Helsinki.FI> <203s5k$j9u@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dumbo.cc.utexas.edu Followups-To: comp.os.minix cmaeda+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Maeda) grumps: > What a breakthrough! If you want your kernel to compile twice as > fast, use a compiler that's twice as dumb or leave out half the > functionality. You guys should write a paper for usenix. Gored my ox, he did! Probably wasn't even reading a [lm]in[iu]x group. ---- Good design knows it's objectives and propagates the essential. Comp.lang.oberon is currently enthusiastic. I certainly like it. A wonderous graphic object interface on a single floppy, a compiler and operating system that compile in 9 seconds or so. Typeset a paragraph with a mouse click. User data files directly portable between SGI, MacII, SPARC, Vax/Ultrix, '386-DOS bases, and direct source portability between platforms, no special flags, just compile and go. delozier@condor.mcs.kent.edu (Greg Delozier) writes: > I had someone ask how many floppies he should bring in to get a copy > of Oberon, and when I told him just one, he nearly dropped. Hmm. He must have seen it execute first. None of my friends believe it either. Keep asking where the rest of it is, really. If the original poster wants an "alternative to MS-DOS", as opposed to "a Unix like OS for a pc" I would encourage him to look at Oberon. Especially if migration after all the current hardware is obsolete matters. I think many of the people who liked Minix back when I posted here, during the 1.5.1x update-of-the-day crazy times, :-) would be intrigued with Oberon. There are several ports from the original "on the silicon" system which essentially replace the file system with hooks to the underlying OS. Depending on the memory models available to current '386 Minixen, it might be possible to have a Minix/Oberon running very soon. I would be especially interested in hearing comments from old hands, after reviewing Oberon, although it seems the other end of the spectrum than Amoeba with one user, one process, one cpu. -- Aubrey McIntosh / Chemistry / University of Texas / Austin, TX 78712 Duncan McIntosh came to America with his wife and infant son near the end of the revolution.