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Xref: sserve comp.unix.bsd:12171 comp.bugs.4bsd:1972 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!rutgers!att-out!cbnewsj!dwex From: dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com (David E. Wexelblat) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.bugs.4bsd Subject: Re: 4.4BSD Release Message-ID: <C9IF45.Ht8@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> Date: 1 Jul 93 23:40:51 GMT References: <20qq3p$ke6@wsrcc.com> <1993Jul1.034113@eklektix.com> <20voif$3qg@wsrcc.com> Sender: news@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (NetNews Administrator) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 53 Nntp-Posting-Host: mtgzfs5.gaz.att.com In article <20voif$3qg@wsrcc.com> wolfgang@wsrcc.com (Wolfgang Rupprecht) writes: > rcd@raven.eklektix.com (Dick Dunn) writes: > >How are they wimps? They've made a decision about what's the most > >reasonable approach while the suit is pending. It may be that they > >want to minimize the cost to the university in the (now increasingly > >unlikely) event they lose the suit--and that's good strategy. It may > >be that they don't see a major gain to the university in releasing > >4.4-Lite sooner. > > From my vantage point it appears that AT&T doesn't have to actually > win the court case. They can just keep matters in the courts for a > few years. Look at how long the Apple look-and-feel suit has gone on. > If the AT&T suit stretches out just as long, that will keep 4.4BSD out > of the hands of most of us for the next 5-10 years. Will anyone even > care if a 10 year old BSD4.4 is finally released? > I've been waiting more than a year to be able to say this.... IT'S NOT AT&T'S LAWSUIT!!!!! It's USL's lawsuit. It was partly AT&T's lawsuit, when they owned part of USL. It was also partly Novell's, Sony's, etc, etc (I can't remember any of USL's other previous owners). It's NOW (as of June 14) Novell's lawsuit. Put the blame where the blame belongs. And for the certain low-class subset of BSD users out there (you know who you are...): Not everyone who works for AT&T works for USL. And not everyone who works for AT&T was in favor of the suit. Nor did we have any control over it. Sending hate-mail to the grunts in the trenches does not win you friends, and does not encourage these grunts to work on freeware projects that you benefit from (XFree86 spring immediately to mind :->). Yes, I did get hate-mail asking how a low-class AT&T slime like me had the guts to post publically on the net. Fortunately, I didn't let that discourage me. Now that AT&T is no longer involved, I can publically say: F.O.A.D (mail me if you don't know what that means). > > -wolfgang > -- > Wolfgang Rupprecht <wolfgang@wsrcc.com> 39469 Gallaudet Dr., Fremont CA 94538 -- David Wexelblat <dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com> (908) 957-5871 Fax: (908) 957-5627 AT&T Bell Laboratories, 200 Laurel Ave - 3F-428, Middletown, NJ 07748 XFree86 requests should be addressed to <xfree86@physics.su.oz.au> "How many times must good men die? How many tears will the children cry, 'til we suffer no more sadness? Oh, stop the madness. Stop all the madness." -- Molly Hatchet, Fall Of The Peacemakers.