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From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.bugs.4bsd
Subject: Re: 4.4BSD Release
Message-ID: <1993Jul6.231111.6506@spcvxb.spc.edu>
Date: 6 Jul 93 23:11:10 EDT
References: <20qdsj$6rt@agate.berkeley.edu> <ROB.93Jul1201153@gangrene.berkeley.edu>  <C9rsE8.8u1@kithrup.com>
Organization: St. Peter's College, US
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In article <C9rsE8.8u1@kithrup.com>, sef@kithrup.com (Sean Eric Fagan) writes:
> Actually, XENIX cannot be called UNIX, which is why, as one might
> guess, it is called XENIX instead of UNIX.  Same for IRIX, etc.  Just
> getting a source license and binary distribution license from AT&T/USL
> did not give one the right to call the product "UNIX"; I know that
> SCO paid for the right to call their product UNIX, and paid pretty
> dearly.

  Yup - this is one of the things that hurt the AT&T/USL/whatever "Unix"
effort. For many years, if you were a commercial vendor with lots of money,
you could hand some of that money to AT&T (no USL yet) and get the right
to sell copies of AT&T's Unix as long as you didn't call it Unix. Thus we
had Genix (National Semiconductor), etc. - probably hundreds of assorted
*ix (and a few *yx) products from as many vendors.

  Now, an end-user-style customer with a system running "Fooix" doesn't
necessarily associate Fooix with AT&T/USL and any other *ix system. This
did a *lot* to fragment the Unix marketplace.

  In fact, I remember when Microsoft got the rights to what they called
Xenix, which at that time ran on a PDP-11 system. This was in 1980 or so.
We had a Microsoft Xenix system running on a PDP-11/34 and all the manuals
were AT&T/Bell Labs manuals with "Unix" magic-markered out and a sticker
on the cover saying something like "All references to AT&T Unix within are
actually to Microsoft Xenix, a software product licensed from AT&T". I 
remember seeing Microsoft delaying Xenix for PC's again and again, and
wondering why. When I asked, I was told that they were rewriting large
portions of the code. I thought this was pretty bizarre, as I had seen it
happily running on an 8086-based Zenith system many months ago. To this
day I don't know why Microsoft waited so long to deliver product.

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381