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From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: BSD/386 Commercial Product
Message-ID: <1993Jul28.024437.6654@spcvxb.spc.edu>
Date: 28 Jul 93 02:44:36 EDT
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In article <2342b1$on2@pdq.coe.montana.edu>, osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen) writes:
> What BSD386 1.0 is not, is it's not
> well suited for those that want to experiment with what may be the
> "latest and greatest".  ie, putting in and removing whole subsytems and
> completely rebuilding the system on a semi-regular basis.

  I've rebuilt the complete system a number of times (5 or 6, I'd say). It's
not hard with BSDI. Of course, finding drop-in subsystems is a bit more work...

 > I guess the people that use BSD386 "seem" to be more interested in doing
> things at the   application level, and not ripping apart the guts of the
> OS.  And I guess my interests are leaning towards guts, rather than skin.

  I'm interested in some internals stuff, but mostly utilities and apps. 

> Where is it done at?  I've seen a mailing list, and 1 alt group, and
> a group in rain.bsdi-users or somesuch? (What is rain anyway?), but
> there doesn't seem to be much chatter about it at all.

  There's the bsdi-users mailing list (and a digest version), where most of
the questions, etc. get asked and answered. I don't believe the majority of
users believe the alt group is "real" - I think it was an "alt accident" by
someone (not BSDI).

  Lots of communication is done directly between various developers and the
users. As an example, I've had discussions about Ethernet drivers, > 16MB
support, and hardware cache coherency problems with BSDI folks (via mail).
Also, user-developers are working on various projects and exchanging mail
within their group. Chances are, if you want to discuss something and you
mail to bsdi-users, someone will see it and point you at the right folks.

	Terry