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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU!werple.apana.org.au!hal9000!cleese!cleese!not-for-mail From: newton@cleese.apana.org.au (Mark Newton) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.bugs Subject: Re: Problems with patchkit 0.2.4 Date: 5 Aug 1993 07:06:01 +0930 Organization: cleese.apana.org.au public access UNIX Lines: 34 Message-ID: <23pa4i$47b@cleese.apana.org.au> References: <1993Jul25.220104.13519@fcom.cc.utah.edu> <BLYMN.93Jul28182459@siren.awadi.com.au> <1993Jul29.032615.9906@fcom.cc.utah.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.apana.org.au In article <1993Jul29.032615.9906@fcom.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes: >In article <BLYMN.93Jul28182459@siren.awadi.com.au> blymn@awadi.com.au (Brett Lymn) writes: >>Why buy MNP? IMHO it has too many problems to be worth it. Apart > ^^^^^^^^^^^ >>from, as you correctly state, the implementation varying between >>manufacturers (I have experienced some MNP5 modems not talking to each >>other at all) but also MNP will happily compress the data irrespective >>of whether the data size is increased by the compression or not. Much >>better to get a v.42bis modem, they seem more reliable (from my > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>experience) and do not try to compress uncompressible data. Besides >>from what I see of the modem market MNP is a bit passe most high end >>ones support v.42bis. As for in-band flow control, I have an option >>on my modem to turn it off, I have done so. > >Ask yourself "What standard do they use in v.32-BIS and v.42-BIS modems to >do their compressing?". This statement actually becomes kinda funny. Bzzzt! v.42 uses LAP-M for error correction; v.42bis uses BTLZ in conjunction with LAP-M for compression. Neither of them make use of MNPx. MNP protocols are proprietry, so they're hardly the correct choice as a CCITT v.* standard, eh? - mark -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- I tried an internal modem, newton@cleese.apana.org.au but it hurt when I walked. Mark Newton ----- Voice: +61-8-3224071 --------------- Data: +61-8-3222915 -----