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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!mips!mips!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!ames!agate!soda.berkeley.edu!wjolitz From: wjolitz@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Jolitz) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: Status of 386BSD 0.1 Message-ID: <13v74tINNdni@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 14 Jul 92 18:41:33 GMT References: <1992Jul13.144624.18224@coe.montana.edu> <13siv6INN1cj@agate.berkeley.edu> <58775@mimsy.umd.edu> Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu In article <58775@mimsy.umd.edu> jds@cs.umd.edu (James da Silva) writes: >cgd@agate.berkeley.edu (Chris G. Demetriou) writes: >>Now it's a matter of killing the last of the show-stoppers, and >>getting it out the door... > >Actually, it looks like a classic case of having to kill the engineer to >get it out the door. (as the saying goes :-) > >Bill, let your baby go. Look at it this way, you're not releasing an >alpha-quality system, you're gaining 1000 beta-testers. :-) > >Jaime >............................................................................ >: Stand on my shoulders, : jds@cs.umd.edu : James da Silva >: not on my toes. : uunet!mimsy!jds : Systems Design & Analysis Group Lynne Jolitz responds (somewhat tongue-in-cheek) :-): After a number of weeks of short sleep and 7 months of putting all of our personal resources into this, it's really gratifying to see your kind and generous messages on netnews. So supportive and enthusiastic. It's people like you that just encourage us to continue putting everything into this project, getting nothing in return but your good will. We are also gratified to hear that you care enough to give the best of yourself: your time, your software, your contributions. It's people like you who keep this project going through a recession and hard times. It's people like you who realize that during difficult times and in a moribund industry, we are all required to help each other, so we all can press on to a better future. Your messages are a shining example to us all. However, even if we cannot achieve our larger goal (because we run out of our savings and just have to get back to real work and our children), I now know that people like you will be willing to selflessly continue on with this project, sinking everything you have into it, because you know that there are others like you who share your attitudes towards doing this work and giving it away. Really, I cannot thank you enough for making me aware of how really *valuable* this project is to everyone. I am beginning to see the light. In fact, I think Bill and I should reconsider our entire role in doing these releases in light of these new inspirational messages. After all, we are getting so very much for it through giving -- aren't we? Aren't you? Isn't everyone? Lynne Greer Jolitz ljolitz@cardio.ucsf.edu