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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!uunet!think.com!ames!agate!agate!usenet From: cgd@agate.berkeley.edu (Chris G. Demetriou) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: 386BSD 0.1 release Date: 17 Jul 1992 21:27:16 -0700 Organization: Kernel Hackers 'r' Us Lines: 68 Message-ID: <1486j4INNq30@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <76029@ut-emx.uucp> <1451eoINNcsv@agate.berkeley.edu> <147pi1INNb1g@ghidra.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: agate.berkeley.edu In article <147pi1INNb1g@ghidra.UU.NET> revell@uunet.uu.net (James R Revell Jr) writes: > [description of how uunet's ftp access to agate dried up, and therefore > they couldn't get the 386bsd 0.1 stuff as soon as it was out deleted] This is because, a long time ago, a stated what my policy for the release of 0.1 was going to be: those hosts whose admins sent me mail asking to be on the mirror list would be placed on the mirror list, and for the first several days after the release, all other access to non-berkeley hosts would be denied. Don't blame me because you didn't tell me you wanted to be on my list! >} ftp.uu.net will probably never be a real mirror site; >} they refuse to carry the binaries, as well as the sources, > >Chris, this is false and I believe you know it. ftp.uu.net has had all >the previous 386BSD source in it's archives, and we'd have had the 0.1 >release yesterday if agate.berkeley.edu didn't deny our ftp >connections. > >It is true that UUNET has not had the 386BSD binaries, but then we've >*always* had the no-binaries policy. The on-binaries policy is >scheduled to be dropped as soon as I get seveal GB of new disk added. >Since I'd expected that would be done this week and it's been delayed, >I have allowed the 386BSD 0.1 bootable images to be mirrored. > i know about the fact that your policy is long-standing... However, given the fact that the Jolitzes demand that "real" mirror sites carry the full distribution -- sources *and* binaries -- I must insist that i'm correct in saying that you're not a real mirror site (and won't be, until you put up the binaries). I'm glad you've allowed the bootable images, and i'd like it even more if you had the entire set of binaries, but i can't do anything about that. Nor can i do anything about what the authors define as "real" mirror sites. I hope you get the new disks soon; i think that if uunet carries the binaries, a lot more people will get them... >} [accidentally deleted a line of my text... hate bad termcaps...] >} getting it from uunet... > >That's a real shame, but I have to say that I don't think it will >stop anyone. Had I been contacted, as I assume the other archive >admins listed were, we could have come to some arrangement. I've >publically posted that UUNET's no-binaries policy was going to be >lifted when more disk was added. I didn't specially contact anyone. I send mail to the 386bsd ftp admin mailing list, and told them that it was out. If you want to subscribe, send mail to listserv@compuram.bbt.se, with a body of "subscribe 386bsd-ftpadmin" But don't flame me, because i didn't do the least thing to slight you. The people who got it quickly (gatekeeper, wuarchive...) got in touch with *ME*. you didn't. not my problem. cheers, Chris -- Chris G. Demetriou cgd@berkeley.edu I'm not from the computer center, and I'm *NOT* here to help *YOU*!