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Xref: sserve comp.os.linux.development:591 comp.os.386bsd.development:1163 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!msuinfo!netnews.upenn.edu!cronkite.ocis.temple.edu!manny.eng.temple.edu!jwiegand From: jwiegand@manny.eng.temple.edu (Don't Panic!) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.386bsd.development Subject: Re: FDC FAQ -- available, but worthless Summary: Classic Ramblings now available! Message-ID: <1993Aug30.224207.19100@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: 30 Aug 93 22:42:07 GMT References: <1993Aug26.045531.6221@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> <jmonroyCCGuDE.B8w@netcom.com> <25r6en$bhd@pdq.coe.montana.edu> Sender: news@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu (NetWork News (readnews)) Organization: Temple University Lines: 188 Nntp-Posting-Host: manny.eng.temple.edu In article <25r6en$bhd@pdq.coe.montana.edu> osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen) writes: >In article <jmonroyCCGuDE.B8w@netcom.com>, >Jesus Monroy Jr <jmonroy@netcom.com> wrote: >> Not true... I said I wouldn't reply unless you've got something >> to say.... Send more mail and see for your self. Ha! Call me a liar, will you! >Actually Jesus, we *all* wish you wouldn't post/mail anything until you've >got something to say... > Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager (406) 994-4780 Well, I saved this e-mail message since I knew he'd say something like this. Here is exactly what Mr. Consistency said, in all its infantile glory: [Begin Quoted Text] From root Mon Aug 23 05:33:56 1993 Received: from netcom4.netcom.com by manny.eng.temple.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13284; Mon, 23 Aug 1993 05:33:50 -0400 Received: by netcom4.netcom.com (5.65/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id AA15727; Mon, 23 Aug 93 02:45:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 93 02:45:48 -0700 From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) Message-Id: <9308230945.AA15727@netcom4.netcom.com> To: jwiegand@manny.eng.temple.edu Subject: Re: Subject: Re: More on the DMA timing problem Status: R >> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 22:41:51 -0400 >> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.mach,comp.os.minix,comp.periphs,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.os.386bsd.development >> Organization: Temple University >> >> In article <jmonroyCBMzF6.3AG@netcom.com> you write: >> >mail adler@netcom.com >> >Subject: Re: More on the DMA timing problem >> > >> > >> > As polite as I can remain, These are my words to you >> > mister alder. >> > >> > >> >>> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.linux,comp.os.mach,comp.os.minix,comp.periphs,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.os.386bsd.development >> >>> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) >> >>> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 03:57:15 GMT >> >>> >> >>> Enough already! Just post the code somewhere and someone with some >> > >> > :: [deleted tons of my own meaningless chatter] :: >> > >> > My code is available to the beta groups that are testing >> > it; Which it is testing now. >> > >> > The relevant importance of you -and any of the so-called >> > group you contend to be working in- is most assuredly >> > the best evidence of pathetic reasoning that abound. >> > >> > If you think that I have, in the past, made any statements >> > that do _or_ are not well founded you and your cohorts >> > are welcome to do me up. Else tonight is the night >> > in which the most metors will be visible in more than a decade >> > my suggestion to you is to go outside and see which >> > land closest to you. My preference for a landing spot, >> > centered concentricly, is about 20 ft. from you. >> > >> > Have a nice day. >> > Write again. >> >> Listen, buddy, nobody believes you have ANY code. >> As if this is important to me. >> So, I dare you, mail it to me. >> Gee... No double dare ?!? >> I'll mail you the QIC-80 code the linux people have >> developed, in return. Who knows, maybe you'll learn something. >> What per se could I learn? >> By the way, threatening people over the network is illegal, and if >> you are lucky, this will be ignored as just another one of your >> outbursts. >> I don't think I have every threaten anyone on the net or anywhere else.... Try the Decaf in the morning. >> SEND ME YOUR CODE. >> :: [deleted] :: >> SEND ME YOUR CODE. >> Your haveing a wett dream... if not dial 976-abc-defg >> jim "open development" wiegand >> ps. If you don't send me your code, I will gladly post to all c.o.l.* >> the fact that you are AFRAID to have any outside evaluation of your >> so-called project. >> Get a life, moron. >> In case you don't remember, this is the second >> time I've asked to see it. Maybe I'll go ahead and post my doubts >> to all the groups you crosspost to. >> If you've considered going into engineering I have something for you: Have a nice day. ===================================================================== Today is St. Patrick's day. Happy Anniversary 386bsd. HANG THE ENGINEER ----------------- In my younger days, through an unrelenting persuasion by my family, I was forced to go to school. Be it as it was, my decision was to be a Civil Engineer. Why not? Engineers made the most money, had the most prestige, garnered the most respect. However, as time passed, money was no longer my ally. While at one time, I could have gone to MIT or even Stanford, my enemy -money- now the distractor of my goal. As such, I decide that any knowledge learned must be thorough. My first engineering class was the classic circle. The student mixture was black, white, men, women, Indian (from India), Irish, German, African and Hispanic. The meager JC I attended had one good prospect. It is this, the prospect, that will, I hope, dis-stray those of you still meandering in the maelstrom. My teacher, Dr. Miller, came from the Roman school of engineering. It had two simple rules. A good engineer got anything he wanted, regardless of cost. A bad engineer, one whose bridge fell down, got hung. NO IFs, NO ANDs, NO ORs, NO BUTs. If the bridge falls down, Hang The Bastard. Why do I speak philosophically and technically in the same breath? Because they are one and the same. Those of you that cannot see this are blinded by your surplus of ambition. Your meteoric comments have identified your complete lack of forethought and perception. I have been told more than once, by many people, from afar as well as in person, that my utterances welcome detraction and criticism. SO BE IT. IF I am not clearing the air of mind-stifling jargon, then I have accomplished nothing. My goals are to make my FDC & QIC-40/80 code not only the best, bullet-proof, example to date, but also a tool, an instructor, an illustration, a lesson, showing that things that things can be done right and well. Those of you that disagree, that think I should not "Hang The Engineer", have no proof that my tort is unfounded, your only recourse is not to be seen or heard. I will, for now, continue to "put people off"; for only my enemies can find my faults. My allies will resort to emotional reasoning that, "they do not want to hurt my feelings". Well, my detractors could care less. They will be the first to point out my failures. They will find every fault and every misspelling. Every last character will be scanned for an inkling of proof that I am, by all means, a moron, a dunce, and a fool by any perception. You are welcome to try. Last Thing: As of the posting of this article, I will NOT be answering my e-mail. ___________________________________________________________________________ Jesus Monroy Jr jmonroy@netcom.com /386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation ___________________________________________________________________________ [End Quoted Text] Nice Guy, eh? jim "flame on" wiegand