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From: jwiegand@manny.eng.temple.edu (Don't Panic!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.386bsd.development
Subject: Re: FDC FAQ -- available, but worthless
Summary: Classic Ramblings now available!
Message-ID: <1993Aug30.224207.19100@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>
Date: 30 Aug 93 22:42:07 GMT
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In article <25r6en$bhd@pdq.coe.montana.edu> osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen) writes:
>In article <jmonroyCCGuDE.B8w@netcom.com>,
>Jesus Monroy Jr <jmonroy@netcom.com> wrote:
>> Not true... I said I wouldn't reply unless you've got something
>> to say.... Send more mail and see for your self.
Ha! Call me a liar, will you!
>Actually Jesus, we *all* wish you wouldn't post/mail anything until you've
>got something to say...
> Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager (406) 994-4780
Well, I saved this e-mail message since I knew he'd say something like
this. Here is exactly what Mr. Consistency said, in all its infantile
glory:
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From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr)
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To: jwiegand@manny.eng.temple.edu
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: More on the DMA timing problem
Status: R
>> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1993 22:41:51 -0400
>> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.mach,comp.os.minix,comp.periphs,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.os.386bsd.development
>> Organization: Temple University
>>
>> In article <jmonroyCBMzF6.3AG@netcom.com> you write:
>> >mail adler@netcom.com
>> >Subject: Re: More on the DMA timing problem
>> >
>> >
>> > As polite as I can remain, These are my words to you
>> > mister alder.
>> >
>> >
>> >>> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.linux,comp.os.mach,comp.os.minix,comp.periphs,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.os.386bsd.development
>> >>> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
>> >>> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 03:57:15 GMT
>> >>>
>> >>> Enough already! Just post the code somewhere and someone with some
>> >
>> > :: [deleted tons of my own meaningless chatter] ::
>> >
>> > My code is available to the beta groups that are testing
>> > it; Which it is testing now.
>> >
>> > The relevant importance of you -and any of the so-called
>> > group you contend to be working in- is most assuredly
>> > the best evidence of pathetic reasoning that abound.
>> >
>> > If you think that I have, in the past, made any statements
>> > that do _or_ are not well founded you and your cohorts
>> > are welcome to do me up. Else tonight is the night
>> > in which the most metors will be visible in more than a decade
>> > my suggestion to you is to go outside and see which
>> > land closest to you. My preference for a landing spot,
>> > centered concentricly, is about 20 ft. from you.
>> >
>> > Have a nice day.
>> > Write again.
>>
>> Listen, buddy, nobody believes you have ANY code.
>>
As if this is important to me.
>> So, I dare you, mail it to me.
>>
Gee... No double dare ?!?
>> I'll mail you the QIC-80 code the linux people have
>> developed, in return. Who knows, maybe you'll learn something.
>>
What per se could I learn?
>> By the way, threatening people over the network is illegal, and if
>> you are lucky, this will be ignored as just another one of your
>> outbursts.
>>
I don't think I have every threaten anyone on the
net or anywhere else.... Try the Decaf in the morning.
>> SEND ME YOUR CODE.
>> :: [deleted] ::
>> SEND ME YOUR CODE.
>>
Your haveing a wett dream... if not dial 976-abc-defg
>> jim "open development" wiegand
>> ps. If you don't send me your code, I will gladly post to all c.o.l.*
>> the fact that you are AFRAID to have any outside evaluation of your
>> so-called project.
>>
Get a life, moron.
>> In case you don't remember, this is the second
>> time I've asked to see it. Maybe I'll go ahead and post my doubts
>> to all the groups you crosspost to.
>>
If you've considered going into engineering I have something
for you:
Have a nice day.
=====================================================================
Today is St. Patrick's day. Happy Anniversary 386bsd.
HANG THE ENGINEER
-----------------
In my younger days, through an unrelenting
persuasion by my family, I was forced to go to school.
Be it as it was, my decision was to be a Civil Engineer.
Why not? Engineers made the most money, had the most prestige,
garnered the most respect. However, as time passed, money was no
longer my ally. While at one time, I could have gone to MIT
or even Stanford, my enemy -money- now the distractor of
my goal. As such, I decide that any knowledge learned must
be thorough.
My first engineering class was the classic circle.
The student mixture was black, white, men, women, Indian
(from India), Irish, German, African and Hispanic. The
meager JC I attended had one good prospect. It is this,
the prospect, that will, I hope, dis-stray those of you
still meandering in the maelstrom.
My teacher, Dr. Miller, came from the Roman school
of engineering. It had two simple rules. A good engineer
got anything he wanted, regardless of cost. A bad engineer,
one whose bridge fell down, got hung.
NO IFs, NO ANDs, NO ORs, NO BUTs.
If the bridge falls down, Hang The Bastard.
Why do I speak philosophically and technically in
the same breath?
Because they are one and the same. Those of you that cannot
see this are blinded by your surplus of ambition. Your meteoric
comments have identified your complete lack of forethought and
perception.
I have been told more than once, by many people, from afar
as well as in person, that my utterances welcome detraction and
criticism.
SO BE IT.
IF I am not clearing the air of mind-stifling jargon,
then I have accomplished nothing. My goals are to make my FDC
& QIC-40/80 code not only the best, bullet-proof, example to date,
but also a tool, an instructor, an illustration, a lesson, showing that things
that things can be done right and well.
Those of you that disagree, that think I should not
"Hang The Engineer", have no proof that my tort is unfounded,
your only recourse is not to be seen or heard.
I will, for now, continue to "put people off"; for only
my enemies can find my faults. My allies will resort to
emotional reasoning that, "they do not want to hurt my feelings".
Well, my detractors could care less. They will be the first to
point out my failures. They will find every fault and every
misspelling. Every last character will be scanned for an
inkling of proof that I am, by all means, a moron, a dunce,
and a fool by any perception.
You are welcome to try.
Last Thing: As of the posting of this article, I will
NOT be answering my e-mail.
___________________________________________________________________________
Jesus Monroy Jr jmonroy@netcom.com
/386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation
___________________________________________________________________________
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Nice Guy, eh?
jim "flame on" wiegand