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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.tufts.edu!gowen From: gowen@apex.cs.tufts.edu (Gregory Owen) Subject: Re: BSD UNIX In-Reply-To: newman@netcom.com's message of Mon, 30 Aug 1993 17:54:45 GMT Message-ID: <GOWEN.93Aug30234233@apex.cs.tufts.edu> Sender: news@news.tufts.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Tufts University Department of Computer Science References: <newmanCCL33A.GBo@netcom.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1993 04:42:33 GMT Lines: 53 newman@netcom.com writes: > My local college computer store has a BSD based UNIX for only $249 > but it requires a 486. Does anyone know of a BSD of Sys V Based UNIX > for the PC that runs on a 386 and costs $249 or less. I can name three alternatives off the top of my head. There is Linux, a free Unix clone, which is written by torvalds@helsinki.fi and developed for by multitudes of net people. There are several groups devoted to it, comp.os.linux.* (note comp.os.linux itself is soon to be superseded by the new groups; don't post there). It runs on 386+ machines with ISA and EISA bus (No MCA report but rumors of it working have been seen; if you have true blue IBM it might or might not work). Linux attempts to comply to POSIX, SysV, and BSD in that order, I believe. I note it is much more BSD than Solaris, which is a SysV4 system. Linux supports most any major package you want: gcc 2.4.5, emacs 19.whatver-today-is, X, LaTeX, ghostscript, etc. etc. Heavy usage of GNU software, and the kernel itself is copylefted and source freely distributed. Ftp sites are tsx-11.mit.edu (avoid!) and sunsite.unc.edu (good), to name two. Read the HOWTOs and the Getting Started guide first, if you are interested -- there's a lot of FAQs but you don't need all of them to go. A second alternative which is, I believe, free, is 386bsd which has the newsgroups comp.os.386bsd.* devoted to it. I know very little about it except that it is not copylefted (berkely copyright, I think) and that asking "which is better, 386bsd or linux?" is a 100% sure way to create 2 months worth of noise on any newsgroup. I'd advise you to find someone who uses it to get an opinion; I have no experience with it. One commercial option is Mark Williams Coherent, a $99 Unix advertised in many Unix mags. I hear it is nice but perhaps a bit slow in development, as all commercial apps are -- Linux has a new kernel release a minimum of once a month to fix and improve things. (note the obvious bias here. Don't flame me, pls.) Last I heard X support had been introduced as an add-on. I've been using Linux since may and am tickled pink with it. I'd been stuck in DOS for so long, and love having an operating system that isn't crippled. Just a personal testament. Good luck, and I'm willing to answer questions sent to my tufts address. The work address will be ignored as I'm hitting vacation time. Greg Owen { gowen@forte.cs.tufts.edu, gowen@xis.xerox.com } 1.01 GCS/GO d++ p+ c++ l++ u++ e+ -m+ s++/- n- h !(f)? g+ -w+ t+ r-- y? "These fragments I have shored against my ruins/Why then Ile fit you. Hieronymo's mad againe./Datta. Dayadhvam. Damyata."