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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.questions:4946 comp.os.386bsd.misc:929 Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!warwick!uknet!mcsun!ieunet!ieunet!dec4ie.ieunet.ie!jkh From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) Subject: FreeBSD vs NetBSD 0.9, wait? [was: Re: from 386bsd0.1 to FreeBSD or NetBSD 0.9] In-Reply-To: rvb+@cs.cmu.edu's message of Thu, 9 Sep 1993 17: 06:16 GMT Message-ID: <JKH.93Sep9215356@whisker.lotus.ie> Followup-To: comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc Sender: usenet@ieunet.ie (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: whisker.lotus.ie Organization: Lotus Development Ireland References: <1993Sep8.231610.9740@ccds3.ntu.edu.tw>, <CD190K.FwG@latcs1.lat.oz.au> <CD3JII.F5w.1@cs.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1993 21:53:56 GMT Lines: 51 >My best advice is to just wait. I've heard on some other news >groups that FreeBSD and NetBSD are going to merge together soon. >I'd like to hear that confirmed here. And the "official" answer is: We don't know. What I can say is that we've discussed it (to death), and we've made up a charter detailing how such a merger should proceed. Now we simply need to decide if and when it should proceed - there are still some sticking points to be ironed out. I can say that for the short-term there will be a FreeBSD 1.0, available for ftp, or on cdrom/tape/etc, and that everyone is encouraged to run it as it is a massive improvement over 386BSD 0.1 (also, an upgrade script for 386bsd->freebsd has just been released and is in the tools area on freebsd.cdrom.com). Those running 1.0 will not be left in the lurch, if and when we ever do merge with NetBSD, since it will be done as a transition from the existing FreeBSD 1.0 (all of us are running it, and we don't want to nuke ourselves either). All in all, I wouldn't recommend waiting at all, since this isn't necessarily going to save you anything either. >So this was working fine with 0.1+0.2.3. I cut over to FreeBSD there >and I got as far as trashing my disk, but I can not get FreeBSD to >successfully come up. On the other hand, NetBsd does not even see I'm very sorry to hear that Robert has been having these troubles, even more that they caused data loss. All I can say in regards to this is "FOLKS, YOU GOTTA LET US KNOW ABOUT SUCH THINGS!" Specifically in regar to the wd driver, since we have about 3 different mutations floating around at the moment that we've been sending people who have problems. By letting us interactively solve your problem, you're also aiding us in the effort to find the One True WD driver that works for everyone. This will also benefit NetBSD, since they can share in the data we collect, if not the results. >I'd certainly like a clear mandate as to which code base to work with. > >Well, which kernel do I hack to fix this? This, like many other things, must remain a matter of taste. I cannot give you the mandate you wish, I'm afraid to say. I can certainly say that we're interested in any work you may do. Jordan -- Jordan Hubbard jkh@violet.berkeley.edu, jkh@al.org, jkh@whisker.lotus.ie