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From: j@bonnie.tcd-dresden.de (J Wunsch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions
Subject: Re: Format (for netbsd): where is it???
Date: 17 Sep 1993 13:14:44 +0200
Organization: Textil Computer Design GmbH Dresden, Germany
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warelock@crash.cts.com (Tom Zacharoff) writes:

>I think I may have the solution (but I haven't tried it yet). I think
>what I need to do is use the bios media analysis (ami bios) and formatting
>commands to beat up the hard disk and mark all the bad spots. I'm guessing
>that my ide drive will then only report good, working sectors to netbsd.

If your IDE drive has really bad sectors, throw it into the trash-bin.
H/W formatting an IDE drive gives two known opportunities:

. The dangerous one: the drive does real formatting, thereby destroing
  its bad-sector remapping table, and possibly even its firmware

. The recent drives' way: write some distinct byte over each sector


>Someone sent me mail saying that scsi AND ide drives are supposed to make
>their media appear as flawless. I think scsi is supposed to handle this
>all by itself but I think with ide you have to do it yourself.

Both do it theirselves.
I've been working with two IDE's and one SCSI for a time. No problems.

The only problematical drive has been an ESDI disk. But: the ESDI
disk's BIOS has a h/w formatting tool. You only have to boot msdog
and jump to ESDI BIOS' address 5 with a debugger.

>If not, I will seriously consider getting a scsi drive.

Together with a proper controller, this would be much better, though
(faster).
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