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From: burgess@hrd769.brooks.af.mil (Dave Burgess)
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Subject: comp.os.386bsd.announce Frequently Asked Questions (Part 8 of 9)
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Section 8. ("Supported" Hardware List)
Disclaimer: This list is NOT a commercial oriented effort. It is not an attempt
to promote brands of computer machinery; it merely reports "happy"
customers. The validity of information supplied is based solely on
the validity of the statements made by the contributors. If more
information is needed on a particular product please contact the
contributor directly via e-mail.
8.0 What hardware is 386BSD known to run on and support!
The problem with this section of the FAQ is that software is
the only reason that every PC card on the planet does not work.
EISA cards are not directly supported; when and if EISA
is directly supported, they will give a significant performance
advantage to EISA bus machines. Until then, there is nothing
that is intrinsically better about owning an EISA bus machine.
Many EISA cards operate in an ISA emulation mode. Notably, the
Ultrastore 24F SCSI controller operates in an IDE emulation mode
that allows the card to be used in the current system without
modification. Most EISA cards that operate in ISA mode will
work with 386BSD, NetBSD, or FreeBSD.
Like EISA, MCA is unsupported currently; unlike EISA, it can't
work until it is supported, as it doesn't fall back to ISA
operation. If you want to work on this problem, I'm sure that
many people will appreciate it; you will probably need an ISA or
EISA machine to do the work, however.
8.1 System brand names
8.2 Motherboards
Here is the list of compatible motherboards for 386bsd that I
managed to collect off the network. Thanks to all of you who
contributed to this effort. If some of you have knowledge of a
different motherboard and want to add it to the list please send
E-mail either Kostis Dryllerakis (kd@doc.ic.ac.uk) or Dave Burgess
(burgess@hrd769.brooks.af.mil).
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Manufacturer : Zeos
Country of origin : USA
Architecture : ISA (serial/parallel ports and controller on board)
Bus Slots : 7 16-bit and 1 8-bit
Chipset :
Processor/Speed : 486SLC/25
Processor Cache : 8K(?)
BIOS : Award w/ built-in setup (no password, though)
Max Memory : 16 megs
Country of availability :
Price estimate : This machine was $1995. (out of production)
Points of attention :
Other Information : I would most likely not recommend this system,
or any other system using a 486SLC...the 16 Meg limit
is a real pain. Also, the system has No processor
upgrade options (unlike a real 486SX)...the
motherboard itself would have to be replaced. :(
Contributor : Matt Beal (publius@wam.umd.edu)
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Manufacturer : Micronics
Country of origin : USA
Architecture : ISA
Bus Slots : 8 (all 16 bit :-)
Chipset : Not Known
Processor/Speed : 486/25MHz
Processor Cache : 256K
BIOS : Phoenix
Max Memory : 16Meg
Country of availability : Australia (at least)
Price estimate : Not Known
Points of attention :
Other Information : Needed "fixed" boot floppies otherwise system
would not boot from hard disk.
Contributor : Brett Lymn (blymn@awadi.com.au)
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Manufacturer : VOBIS / HIGHSCREEN
Country of origin : Germany
Architecture : ISA
Bus Slots : 8
Chipset : OPTI / uP INTEL
Processor/Speed : INTEL 80486 DX 50 Mhz
Processor Cache : 256 Kb
BIOS : AMI 1992
Max Memory : 32MB
Country of availability : Europe
Price estimate : 3000 US $ with the following configuration:
486/50 - 8 Mb RAM - HDD 210 Mb - 2 floppies -
VGA card - 14" VGA Monitor -
DOS/Windows/& other software.
Points of attention : I paid 6000 US $ for the following configuration:
486/50 - 16 Mb RAM - SCSI card (Adaptec) 425 Mb
SCSI disk - 2 floppies - 1 Mb VGA card (ET4000) -
17" professional monitor etc. The hard drive alone
costs 1250 US $, but it is from a third party. The
monitor alone (PHILIPS, remarked as VOBIS)
costs 1000 US $.
All prices are valid in Italy.
Other Information :
Contributor : Piero Serini (piero@strider.st.dsi.unimi.it)
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Manufacturer : OPTI
Country of origin :
Architecture : ISA
Bus Slots : 8
Chipset : OPTI
Processor/Speed : 486DX/33
Processor Cache : 256K (can use from 64K - 512K)
BIOS : AMI
Max Memory : 32M
Country of availability : USA, at least
Price estimate : $850 (w/ 8M) ??
Points of attention : Make sure cache-able region setting matches actual
size of RAM. Probably don't want BIOS shadowing.
Other Information : Uses 1- or 4-Meg 80ns SIMMS, in sets of 4.
(8 sockets).
Contributor : Bill Warner (wtw@wpi.wpi.edu)
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Manufacturer : unknown (board is called PAT48SA)
Country of origin : unknown
Architecture : ISA
Bus Slots : 6x 16bit, 1x 8bit
Chipset : SIS
Processor/Speed : 486 33MHz
Processor Cache : 256 KByte
BIOS : AMI BIOS
Max Memory : 32 MByte
Country of availability : Germany (at least)
Price estimate :
Points of attention : none
Other Information :
Contributor : Jan Klier, Berlin - Germany (klier.cs.tu-berlin.de)
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Manufacturer : NICE USA
Country of origin : U.S.A
Architecture : ISA
Bus Slots : 8
Chipset :
Processor/Speed : 486DX/50MHz
Processor Cache : 256K
BIOS : AMI
Max Memory : 32MB
Country of availability :
Price estimate :
Points of attention :
Other Information :
Contributor : Tom Wye TJW00@charon.amdahl.com
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==== EISA MOTHERBOARDS ===
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Manufacturer : A.I.R. (Advanced Integration Research, Inc.)
Country of origin : San Jose, CA USA
Architecture : EISA/Local Bus
Bus Slots : 8 Total - 5 EISA, 3 EISA/Local Bus
Chipset : SIS
Processor/Speed : 486DX33 (20-50mhz)
Processor Cache : 256Kb (64-512KB)
BIOS : AMI
Max Memory : 256MB max using 16M X 36 SIMMS
Country of availability : U.S.A
Price estimate : $475 US with 256KB cache, No processor or Memory
Points of attention :
Other Information : Only tested with Tiny Kernel with Adaptec 1542B and
ET4000 video card. EISA and Local Bus not tested
yet. Will post again with further results.
Contributor : Joe Gervais joeg@Novell.com
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Manufacturer : NICE
Country of origin : USA
Architecture : EISA/Local Bus
Bus Slots : 8 total - 5 ISA + 2 EISA/VLB + 1 EISA
Chipset : HiNT
Processor/Speed : 486DX/50MHZ
Processor Cache : 256K
BIOS : AMI
Max Memory : 128MB
Country of availability : USA
Price estimate : $950 + memory
Points of attention : none
Other Information : easy boot, mini AT footprint
easy boot, sudden death. first motherboard failed
after one week due to temperature sensitive component.
Contributor : duncan@zycad.com (Donald Duncan)
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Manufacturer : Partner (according to supplier - board is unlabeled)
Country of origin : Taiwan
Architecture : EISA
Bus Slots : 8
Chipset : Opti
Processor/Speed : 486 DX2 66
Processor Cache : 8k internal 256k on board
BIOS : AMI
Max Memory : 32Mb
Country of availability : UK
Price estimate : 599 ex VAT including (necessary) heat sink for 486.
Points of attention : Board works with 386BSD straight out of the box
with defaults.. When adding memory you must use
the BIOS setup to make all of the new RAM cache-able.
Other Information : This board is cheap and it works. I got mine from
Jupiter Systems (081 570 1011). They do a fairly wide
range of boards and accessories. See Micro Mart for
an advert.
Contributor : David James (dwj@btcase.bt.co.uk dwj@doc.ic.ac.uk)
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Manufacturer : Synerco, Inc. Richardson Texas (214) 669-0023
Country of origin : U.S.A.
Architecture : EISA
Bus Slots : 8
Chipset : SOYO Motherboard
Processor/Speed : Intel/486/66MHz
Processor Cache : 256K
BIOS : 1990 American Megatrends
Max Memory : 32 MB
Country of availability : Dallas, Texas, U.S.A.
Price estimate : US 3,000
Points of attention :
Other Information : 1 IO card with /dev/com1=DB9 and /dev/com2=DB25
EtherCard PLUS "Elite16 Series"
(io base=0x280, irq=2,iomem=0xd000)
(jumper change to SOFT)
(Do NOT use default setting, must use)
(SMC SuperDisk a:ezsetup to adjust)
Logitech MouseMan Serial Mouse (M/N: M-CJ13 -9F)
plug in /dev/com1
Contributor : Jongjay Liou (jongjay@mistxt.oc.com)
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Manufacturer : Gateway2000
Country of origin : U.S.A.
Architecture : EISA
Bus Slots : 8 (6 master and 2 slave?)
Chipset :
Processor/Speed : 486DX2-66E
Processor Cache : 8 k internal 128 k external
BIOS : Award (?)
Max Memory : 16MB
Country of availability : U.S.A.
Price estimate : $4750
Points of attention : (Set Adaptec 1740 SCSI to "standard" mode)
Other Information :
Contributor : Daniel Ortmann <ortmann@plains.NoDak.edu>
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Manufacturer : Micronics Model: 5050-00-ICP/E2/256 Revision: A-1,
plus rework ECN E2A07 to fix CMOS/clock problem
Country of origin : USA/Taiwan
Architecture : EISA & Local Bus
Bus Slots : 8 EISA. 6 are bus master capable, two are not. One of
the slots that can not be used for a bus master has
a connector at the other end for a local bus card.
So, for this slot you decide whether to plug in an
EISA card or a local bus card.
Chipset : Intel 357, Intel 358, and a Micronics ASIC.
Processor/Speed : 486DX50
Processor Cache : 256 KB external secondary cache, 8 KB internal
BIOS : Phoenix 80486/EISA, ROM BIOS PLUS version 1.01.23-2
Max Memory : 64MB
Country of availability :
Price estimate : $1700.00 US
Points of attention :
Other Information : built in floppy controller, 1 parallel port, and two
serial ports.
Contributor : Chris Shaker (shaker@cisco.com)
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8.3 Video cards
8.4 Mice
8.5 Serial Cards
8.5.1 How do I configure multiport cards?
Patchkit 0.2.4 has introduced the possibility to use multiport
serial boards. How do you configure an AST/4 in the kernel?
The AST/4 and its clone multiport cards can run on 386BSD using
patchkit 0.2.4 and later. The only problems seem to be that the
code in sioprobe() and sioattach() in sio.c needs to be hacked to
get it to properly detect the ports and then recognize the type
of UARTs installed (16550As). The code segment that is causing
the problem is included below:
The test in the sio.c driver (in the sioattach() routine) that
is causing it to *think* it is a 8250 is:
scr = inb(iobase + com_scr);
outb(iobase + com_scr, 0xa5);
scr1 = inb(iobase + com_scr);
outb(iobase + com_scr, 0x5a);
scr2 = inb(iobase + com_scr);
outb(iobase + com_scr, scr);
if (scr1 != 0xa5 || scr2 != 0x5a) <--- this is it!
printf(" <8250>");
This test seems to be depending upon the absence of the com_scr
register in the 8250 (iobase+7). Unfortunately, the AST 4-port
card uses this last register of the last UART for interrupt status
(for the 4 UARTs), hence the last port of the 4 fails the test.
The easiest fix is to simply delete this test in your copy of
sio.c (If you *know* that you have no 8250s).
The Bocaboard (BB1008) fails the same way on *all* 8 of its
ports (the +7 address register is replicated for each port
according to the documentation).
There are also some problems with another test in the if
statement:
if ( inb(iobase + com_cfcr) != CFCR_8BITS
|| inb(iobase + com_ier) != IER_ETXRDY
|| inb(iobase + com_mcr) != MCR_IENABLE
|| !isa_irq_pending(dev) <--- this one fails!
|| (inb(iobase + com_iir) & IIR_IMASK) != IIR_TXRDY
|| isa_irq_pending(dev)
|| (inb(iobase + com_iir) & IIR_IMASK) != IIR_NOPEND)
result = 0;
in the sioprobe() routine for a couple of the ports on the
4-port card. Again, the fix is simply to remove that particular
test and everything seems to be okay. These are admittedly
pretty ugly hacks, but when you're in a pinch to the system back
up...
What you need in the config file is:
sio0 -> COM1
sio1 -> COM2
(both should be recognized and work just fine)
sio2 @ 0x1a0 irq 9 flags 0x0501
sio3 @ 0x1a8 irq 9 flags 0x0501
sio4 @ 0x1b0 irq 9 flags 0x0501
sio5 @ 0x1b8 irq 9 flags 0x0501
Other folks have reported that their configuration looks very
similar to this, though they are using irq 5 for the 4-port card.
(above paraphrased from Bob Willcox, et al)
8.6 Disk Controllers
8.7 SCSI Controllers
8.8 Network Cards
8.9 Printers
8.10 TAPE Drives
Editor's note:
This tapedrive list is maintained by the original authors. If you
have additions, corrections, changes, or deletions, please be sure
to contact the folks listed in the next paragraph.
These tape drives have been reported as working (or not working) on
386BSD or NetBSD, either in articles on USENET or in response to
previous postings. If you know any more details, want to point out
errors, know another tape drive works (or doesn't), have any
suggestions for additions/changes to the FAQ, or anything else
useful, please send your reports to:
andrew@oti.on.ca (Andrew Cornwall) or
rsk@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Bob Kemp)
PLEASE HELP TO 15 Sep 1993 THIS LIST BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AND NEW
INFO. IN RETURN, WE WILL POST UPDATES AND TRY TO MAKE THE LIST
AVAILABLE TO ANYONE INTERESTED.
IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER:
This list is not guaranteed to be 100% correct.
We don't know much about tape drives as yet, so
we are only collating information provided by others.
By getting feedback on this list, we hope to improve
it into an FAQ.
EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THANK-YOU:
Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this list. Without
your help, it wouldn't exist!
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Minor Corrections to:
Wangtek 5150ES
Tandberg 3820 5 1/4" HH internal QIC 525 SCSI streamer
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
MANUFACTURER CONTACTS:
Archive is a Maynard company bought by Conner
Sales: +1 714 641 0279
Technical: +1 800 227 6296
[informant: mq8qc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu (KARAGEORGIOU ANGELOS)]
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COMPATIBLE TAPE DRIVES:
Format of each entry is as follows:
Name: {name of the device; if you're reporting, please be as
specific as possible}
Capacity: {Maximum size of the device}
Approx Cost: {Roughly what you paid}
Interface: {How it talks to the machine - SCSI, PC bus, etc}
Controllers: {What controller you're using - Adaptec 1542B, etc}
Informant: {Who says it works}
Comments: {Anything good or bad you feel like saying}
Name: Archive 2060
Capacity: 60MB
Approx Cost: US$200
Interface: SCSI
Controllers: Adaptec 1542b, Adaptec 1742a
Informant: duncan@zycad.com
Comments: no observed problems when used with julian's drivers.
works fine with 1542b/1742a
Name: Archive 2150
Capacity: 250Mb
Approx cost: US$350-500
Interface: SCSI
Controllers: Adaptec 1542b, Adaptec 1742a
Informant: ejh@slustl.slu.edu (Eric J. Haug)
admerlev@cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (me 8-))
duncan@zycad.com
jfieber@sophia.smith.edu
Comments: works well with both the driver in the distribution
kernel and julians' SCSI drivers. [ejh]
nice device!!!, works like a charm, tar w/ original
scsi-driver plus variable block length patch, under DOS:
GTAR, ASPIBIN (ASPI-TAR), PCTOOLS 8.0, COREL-SCSI
works fine with julian's drivers and 1542b/1742a
[admerlev/duncan]
and with Adaptec 1542C + Julian's SCSI drivers [jfieber]
Name: Archive 2525-S (Firmware Rev. 25462-007 - seems to be important [nbladt])
Capacity: QIC-24 (?), QIC-120, QIC-150, QIC-525
Approx Cost: ca. 1000,- DM (about US$ 600 ?)
Interface: SCSI-1
Controllers: Adaptec 1542B, Adaptec 1542C, Adaptec 1742A, Adaptec 1742B
Informant: nbladt@autelca.ascom.ch (Norbert Bladt)
hm@hcshh.hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis)
loodvrij%cyb@fredbox.cts.com (Bruce J. Keeler)
Comments: In contrary to what my dealer told me, it can read and WRITE
QIC-150 tapes. Didn't have a chance to try QIC-120, or QIC-60,
etc. yet.
I am using 386bsd-0.1 (still with the first patchkit and
all updates from Julian for his fabulous SCSI-driver kit)
Sorry, no experience with the original driver because
that driver doesn't work with the 1742A. [nbladt]
Worked with Julian's driver out of the box. [hm]
Seems to stream just fine with tar under stock NetBSD-0.8.
Can't seem to get restore to work properly with it, or
get it to read any other capacity of tape, but that may be
my fault.... [loodvrij]
Name: Cipher Model 540
Capacity: 45M/60M (probably/hopefully)
Approx Cost: Loaned to me in `vintage appearance' (Much dust) - No idea !
Interface: SCSI 1
Controllers: Adaptec 1542B
Informant: Julian Stacey <stacey@guug.de>
Comments: Shows promise, Cant yet call it truly usefull though:
The Good Bit:
I have seen it stream constantly on 386bsd.
The Bad Bit:
I can't use it as a usefull drive because it keeps
dropping out with errors.
The fault does not lie in the media, & most probably
not with external power supply or scsi cable -
I'm working on it.
Name: CIPHER MicroStreamer F880 (1600bpi, 9 track PERTEC interface)
Capacity: ???
Approx Cost: $5000 for the drive in 1985
$1000 for protocol Converter 1992
Interface: SCSI
Controllers: Adaptec AHA-1542A to NCR ADP-53 to tape drive
Informant: mike@scrooge.uoregon.edu (Mike Hoffman)
Comments: It is FAST, reads tape about the same speed as rewind.
The SCSI controller runs the 9 track drive thru the
converter and an Archive 2060S 60mb Cartridge tape
drive directly. After putting in the current
patches and reading the PERTEC Specs it was almost
"plug and play". The ADP-53 is a protocol converter
from/to SCSI/PERTEC, purchased from Laguna Data
Systems (see Byte Magazine).
Problems:
mt does not seem to be of much use. Forward spacing
the 9 track tape is an iffy job (skipping the label
on a labeled tape). dd now does this (skip=1).
I always get the error 'cannot prevent/allow'. This
is not a big deal (prevent or allow removal of
tape).
dd does not handle cr/lf at all well. Could be all
the protocol conversions or gnu dd just doesn't do
it. All files are read in as one line(no CR Lf
etc). The blocking and conversion options have no
effect on line length. Conversion from EBCDIC to
ASCII works fine. A small program to break up the
file solves the long line problem.
Name: Cipher ST-150F
Capacity: 150Mb
Approx cost: US$300 (incl. interface)
Interface: QIC-02
Controllers: Cipher
Informant: hideki@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp (YOSHIDA Hideki)
Comments: works well with blocksize <= 4b
Name: Cipher ST150-S
Capacity: QIC-24(read only), QIC-120, QIC-150
Approx Cost: 1300,- DM (long ago ..)
Interface: SCSI (better SCSI-I or CCS)
Controllers: Adaptec 1542B, 1742
Informant: Hellmuth Michaelis (hm@hcshh.hcs.de)
Comments: This drive responds with empty strings if asked for
for it's vendors name and model.
It has a strange format of the mode sense/set command
blocks.
By default, it reports a soft error back to the host
which makes it a bit hard to work with.
Problems solved with next release of Julian Elischer's
enhanced SCSI driver (currently beta, July '93).
Someone from Australia reported that there is an upgrade
to SCSI-2 available, but since Cipher was sold to Archive
who was sold to Maynard who was sold to Conner, I could not
verify this.
Name: COMTEK Gigatape 1200 4mm external DAT
Capacity: 1.2 Gb
Approx Cost: US$800
Interface: SCSI 1
Controllers: Adaptec 1542B
Informant: Rich@rice.edu
Comments: Uses formatted, fixed blocksize tapes. Only
partial success writing about 400Mb so far.
Name: DEC TZ30
Capacity: 96 MB (uses 3M CompacTape cartridges)
Approx cost:
Interface: SCSI
Controllers: Adaptec 154xB
Informant: davidb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (David Burren) May 1993
Comments: Works with Julian's SCSI drivers. Console reports "cannot
prevent/allow" but this is not a problem.
This is the native-SCSI half-height version of DEC's
TK50Z drive.
Name: DEC TZ857
Capacity: 18.2 GB (stacker unit with seven 2.6 GB CompacTape
III tapes)
Approx cost: lots
Interface: SCSI
Controllers: Adaptec 154xB
Informant: davidb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (David Burren) May 1993
Comments: Works with Julian's SCSI drivers. As with the TZ30,
"cannot prevent/allow" is reported but operation
continues.
As 386bsd has no "mt online" yet, cartridge loading is
done manually, but unloading/advancing is done through
"mt offline" as under Ultrix.
I don't really use this drive, but I had access to it
for a day and tried it out...
Name: Exabyte 8200 8mm
Capacity: 2.2 GB
Approx cost:
Interface: SCSI
Controllers: Adaptec 154xB
Informant: davidb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (David Burren) May 1993
Comments: Works perfectly with Julian's SCSI drivers.
I use it all the time for my system dumps and for
exchanging files with other machines.
Name: Hewlett-Packard HP35480A DAT drive
Capacity: 4 GB
Approx Cost: $1400
Interface: SCSI
Controllers: Adaptec 1542B
Informant: karl@neosoft.com
Comments: Great drive, flawless performance. Requires
variable length tapedrive patches which should be
in the patchkit, but I haven't checked. (They were
submitted around November of '92)
Name: Sankyo ST525
Capacity: 525 Mbyte
Approx Cost: 6000 SEK (US$850)
Interface: SCSI (SCSI-2)
Controllers: Adaptec 1542B
Informant: jonas@carmen.volvo.se (Jonas Lagerblad)
Comments: everything works allright except for one crash
The SCSI bus seemed hang after running
"dump 0uf - /dev/rsd0a | gzip --best |
dd of=/dev/rst0 bs=64k"
for approx 1 hour. If I skip the compression
everything works perfectly. (I am using Julian's
SCSI driver) 386BSD-0.1 patchkit 0.2 patches 0-110
Name: Tandberg 3600 series
Capacity:
Approx cost:
Interface:
Controllers:
Informant: fredriks@austin.ibm.com (Lars Fredriksen)
Comments: IN DEVELOPMENT. So far I have it working with fixed
and variable block micro code (original Tandberg vs. IBM firmware).
I am adding support for selecting densities for the minor
devices via IOCTLS,as well as setting the fixed blocksize via
IOCTL. This work is almost done, and I will send the driver to
julian. I see him as the distributor of fixes to his own code.
So far I have not had any problems reading 30/60/150/250 Mb tapes.
similarly no problems writing 150/250 Mb tapes.
Name: Tandberg 3660
Capacity: 250Mb
Approx cost:
Interface:
Controllers:
Informant: Per Anders Olausson <pao@cd.chalmers.se>
meidinge@ps2zenger1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de(Thomas Meidinger)
Comments: DC6250, DC6150 (not tested) and DC600A.
Reads and writes DC-6120 as well. [pao]
Name: Tandberg 3820 5 1/4" HH internal QIC 525 SCSI streamer
Capacity: up to 520Mb (depending on media) uncompressed
Approx cost: (I bought mine two years ago--it wasn't cheap :-)
Interface: SCSI-1/2
Controllers: AHA1542B, 1742A, DTC3290
Informant: tmh@first.gmd.de (Thomas M. Hoberg)
stacey@guug.de (Julian Stacey)
tomb@gator.bocaraton.ibm.com (Thomas Bagli)
Comments: Works well with both the driver in the distribution kernel
and julians' SCSI drivers. Reads all QIC media (tested
QIC 40/60/120/150/525) Writes QIC 120/150/250/320/525
(120/150/525 tested) Includes a 256k buffer. 2 rw
speeds: 83k/s for QIC<320, 200k/sec for 320+
Occasionally the file system can't keep up at
200k/sec on backups (small files), somewhat more often
on restores. The drive can directly seek to any block
on the tape, so in theory at least with the
appropriate device drive you could mount a file system
on it (you better keep fragmentation low :-) As you
can guess, I am EXTREMELY happy with it.
[tmh]
The Good Bit:
It streams constantly without error (~40mins for 525M
write @ 60K blocking). Tape drive shares bus with 3
SCSI-2 Seagate drives also OK with a SCSI-1 Micropolis 1684-7.
The Bad Bit:
We (several us of using these TDC3820s on different hardware)
have undergone an eerom + eprom autodensity upgrade to allow
150M writes (previously could only read 150M tapes +r&w 525M);
this known as Revision 04908, Done 92 08 28.
There is some kind of block size problem that prevents
us reliably exchanging 525M tapes, 150M seems OK,
problem is tape hardware oriented I believe,
not 386BSD specific.
Problem pre-existed the 150M write capability upgrade.
A friend with same 386bsd + TDC3820 + 1542A can't read my tapes,
neither can a PCS (M68000 based) computer with a TDC3820
[stacey]
We paid DM1000 (~$625) in early 1991. This was a very
special price, and I estimate that the actual cost would be
(very) approximately 50% more (~$950).
I've used it with an Adaptec 1742A, a DTC3290 (caching 1542B
emulation), and a Mylex ?376? (caching, but only under DOS)
SCSI controllers. It doesn't just stream, it screams. I've
never seen a streamer that just streams without a pause,
rewind or such. This one does (not to say that the Tandberg
is the sole reason for this).
[tomb]
Name: WangDAT 3200
Capacity: 2Gb (up to 8Gb w/compression) on a 90 meter tape
Approx cost: US$1200-$1300 approx
Interface: SCSI
Controllers:
Informant: conklin@talisman.kaleida.com (J.T. Conklin)
cgd@postgres.Berkeley.edu
Comments: Works great with Julian's SCSI drivers and an Adaptec 1742...
(I use it to do my dumps, and I've actually checked and made
sure the restores work... 8-) [cgd]
Name: Wangtek 5099EN
Capacity:
Approx cost:
Interface:
Controllers:
Informant: Original 386bsd.FAQ
Comments:
Name: Wangtek 5099SC24, this is a QIC drive (same mechanical drive
as 5099EN24) with a QIC24 to SCSI board by wangtek full height
Capacity: 60Mb w/DC600A, 100Mb w/DC6250
Approx cost: Used as is drives US$25.00/each, refurbs ~US$100.00
Interface: SCSI
Controllers: Adaptec 1542B
Informant: rgrimes@agora.rain.com
Comments: works well with both the driver in the distribution
kernel and julians' SCSI drivers. Very old full height
driver readily availiable in the surplus market. I know
where there are 50 or so of these for $25.00/each as is,
they are pulls from old workstations.
Name: Wangtek 5150EQ
Capacity: 250MB (QIC-150)
Approx cost: 400 UK pounds including software for DOS
Interface: QIC-02
Controllers: Wangtek QIC-02 included
Informant: kd@doc.ic.ac.uk (K J Dryllerakis)
Comments: Works with stock driver. Very very slow but reliable. Funny,
it only seems to work if you use /dev/wt0 instead of /dev/rwt0.
New driver in beta version by micke@dynas.se (Mikael Hybsch).
Name: Wangtek 5150ES
Capacity: 250Mb
Approx cost:
Interface: SCSI
Controllers: Adaptec 1542B
Informant: berry@max.IN-Berlin.DE (Stefan Behrens)
duncan@zycad.com (Don)
Comments: [With original 0.1 SCSI ...] it streams constantly
and works without any errors. Works with original
as.c driver and with newer drivers from Julian
[eg in patchkit 0.2.4]. [berry]
Does not work with the 1742a and 386bsd!!!!!
SCSI driver compatibility problems. [duncan, ~Jun'93]
NOTE: with the latest patchkit Stefan Behrens [berry]
has reported that Julian's SCSI now works with it.
No update yet on 1742C behaviour.
Name: Wangtek 5525ES
Capacity: 525M
Approx cost: US$600, CDN$1000
Interface: Adaptec 1542B, Adaptec 1742
Controllers: SCSI
Informant: bky@eco.twg.com (Brian Yasaki)
andrew@noware.ocunix.on.ca (Andrew Cornwall)
Comments: Writes QIC120, 150, 250, 525. Reads QIC24 as well
(untested). Works with the distribution kernel.
Name: Wangtek QT60 (aka Tecmar QT60)
Capacity: 60M
Approx cost:
Interface: QIC 02
Informant: tcombs@pacific.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Tim Combs)
Comments: It works although does not stream under 386BSD 0.1
END OF COMPATIBLE TAPE DRIVE LIST
8.11 CD-ROMs
The Sony Multispin drives work good for Charles Hannum under NetBSD,
using the SCSI controller.
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