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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.questions:5129 comp.os.386bsd.misc:1021 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!spool.mu.edu!wupost!udel!newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu!stark.UUCP!cs.sunysb.edu!newsserv!stark!gene From: newsserv!stark!gene@cs.sunysb.edu (Gene Stark) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: 386BSD 0.1 must die ( was Re: FreeBSD vs NetBSD etc.) Date: 15 Sep 93 07:36:23 Organization: Gene Stark's home system Lines: 48 Message-ID: <NEWSSERV!STARK!GENE.93Sep15073623@stark.uucp> References: <hastyCD8A1E.9AA@netcom.com> <1993Sep13.121342.3732@cm.cf.ac.uk> <2756of$73g@umd5.umd.edu> <2769a7$knq@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> Reply-To: gene%stark.uucp@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: stark.uucp In-reply-to: felawka@sitka.triumf.ca's message of 15 Sep 1993 05:30:47 GMT In article <2769a7$knq@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> felawka@sitka.triumf.ca (Larry Felawka) writes: In article <2756of$73g@umd5.umd.edu> mark@roissy.umd.edu (Mark Sienkiewicz) writes: >>>386bsd-0.1 >>>386bsd-0.1 + random patches >>>386bsd-0.1 + patchkit >> >>Well, let's face it, with FreeBSD and NetBSD now out there I think we should >>forget about 0.1 and any patches that go with it. Even Bill doesn't think 0.1 >>is in a fit state to be usable and the patchkit mechanism, while it it >>served us well for a while, should now be quickly forgotten about. > >The way to make this happen is to remove it from the archive sites. Oh, kind Sir .. please don't! I found the 386bsd binaries very useful for bringing up FreeBSD when it first came out. I used goodies like mread, kermit, cksum (the FreeBSD version seems to use a different algorithm), emacs, tcsh and so on. Ahh, binary compatibilty is a wonderful thing! I just wanted to add that, in upgrading my system last weekend from 386BSD 0.1 + pk 0.2.4 to FreeBSD, I decided to "recycle" my archival floppies used for the 386BSD 0.1 distribution. However, there were several things I kept: a virgin Tiny BSD floppy a virgin Fixit floppy a copy of the 386BSD kernel source tree, with all the old versions of files created by the patchkit *all* my "etc" distribution floppies. I decided not to recycle the "etc" floppies because there were several things on there that I use regularly which did not find their way into the FreeBSD tree. In particular, kermit and mtools. There were a couple of other things on that distribution that are also useful. I don't care about the vast majority of stuff in that distribution, and if I could collect demonstrably working versions of the things I do use (with source), then I would gladly recycle these floppies as well. I kept the Tiny BSD floppy and the Fixit floppy because I almost got burned by the 0.2.4 wd driver not being able to disklabel an unlabeled disk. I did have to revert to the Tiny BSD floppy at one point to get my system back into a usable state. I kept the kernel source tree with old versions for possible comparison with later versions, in case of questions about later changes or maybe even copyright notices. - Gene Stark -- stark@cs.sunysb.edu