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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.announce:120 comp.answers:2076 news.answers:12527 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!news.dell.com!natinst.com!hrd769.brooks.af.mil!hrd769.brooks.af.mil!not-for-mail From: burgess@hrd769.brooks.af.mil (Dave Burgess) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.announce,comp.answers,news.answers Subject: [comp.os.386bsd] Berkeley Net Release/2 derived BSD for PCs FAQ (Part 2 of 10) Followup-To: comp.os.386bsd.announce Date: 27 Sep 1993 13:14:21 -0000 Organization: Armstrong Laboratory, Brooks AFB, TX Lines: 794 Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu Distribution: world Expires: 10/15/93 Message-ID: <386bsd-faq-2-749135665@hrd769.brooks.af.mil> References: <386bsd-faq-1-749135665@hrd769.brooks.af.mil> Reply-To: 386bsd-faq@hrd769.brooks.af.mil (386bsd FAQ Maintainer) NNTP-Posting-Host: hrd769.brooks.af.mil Posted-By: auto-faq 2.4 Archive-name: 386bsd-faq/part2 Section 1. (General Network Information) General information This section of the FAQ is about the electronic support network that exists for 386bsd. 1.0 What is 386BSD? (Taken from the INSTALL.NOTES by the Jolitz's) Welcome to 386BSD Release 0.1, the second edition of the 386BSD operating system created by William and Lynne Jolitz. Like its predecessor, 386BSD Release 0.0, Release 0.1 comprises an entire and complete UNIX-like operating system for the 80386/80486-based AT Personal Computer. 386BSD Release 0.1 is an enhanced version of the original release done by William F. Jolitz, the developer of 386BSD. 386BSD Release 0.0 was based on the Networking Software, Release 2 from the University of California at Berkeley EECS Department, and included much of the 386BSD work done earlier by Bill and contributed by us to the University. The latest release, 386BSD Release 0.1, contains new work by the developer and many new items which have been freely contributed by other software developers for incorporation into 386BSD (see the file CONTRIB.LIST). These contributions have increased the functionality and made it more robust. As a courtesy to the developer and the many people who have generously contributed these software enhancements, we request that users abide by and properly maintain all attributions, copyrights, and copylefts contained within this release. 386BSD is intended to foster new research and development in operating systems and networking technology by providing this base technology in a broadly accessible manner. As such, like its predecessor, 386BSD Release 0.1 is freely redistributable and modifiable. 1.0.1 What are these other Free BSD systems? For reasons best left to private E-Mail, there have been two different 'product lines' that have been established for development of BSD systems. They are NetBSD and FreeBSD. Both, individually, have virtually deprecated the original 386bsd. The "raison d'etre" for each is different and each has a different set of goals. The purpose for FreeBSD is to develop a stable working environment for [3-9]86 systems. The emphasis has been on upgrading utility programs and incorporating changes that make the system more stable. NetBSD, on the other hand, is a development effort whose main thrust is on mulitple platform support and staying more current with BSD 4.4. Both systems are excellent choices for the casual user or people who are interested in studying the internals of an operating system. While the products are nearly commercial quality, they are both maintained by volunteers. 1.1 Feature summary Among the many features of these BNR/2 systems: * Floppy disk based Installation * Hard drive partitioning for use with MS-DOS partitions * Compressed, multivolume CPIO dump format binary/source/other distribution sets on MS-DOS floppies. * 387 emulation. * SCSI support. * CD-ROM support. * NFS, TCP/IP and full networking. 1.2 The future of 386BSD. Forecasting the future is always a tricky business. There is work underway to implement version 0.2 of 386bsd. In addition, many people are involved in a project to put together a 386bsd version (FreeBSD) which will be a complete distribution set including all relevant patches and updates to new versions of many of the software packages that are currently available. It is available by anonymous FTP from FreeBSD.cdrom.com In addition, NetBSD (a direct descendent of 386bsd) is available for anonymous FTP from sun-lamp.cs.berkeley.edu. The purposes of these two apparent competitors appear to be at odds, but in fact are very similar. NetBSD has taken a 'stable, production quality, free OS' as one of its primary goals, where 386bsd pursues the high ideal of the ultimate OS research platform. There is considerable cross pollination of the two. The frequent debates on style and concept that appear in comp.os.386bsd.* are testimony to that point. NetBSD and FreeBSD are still both very viable operating system alternatives, with differing goals. To see the Future of 386bsd as seen by Bill and Lynne Jolitz, I suggest you read the INSTALL.NOTES that come with 386bsd. 1.3 386BSD software projects in progress The list of software projects in progress is just too volatile to go into a static document like the FAQ. Suffice it to say, if there is something you want to do using 386bsd; ask first to see what has been done. Nate Williams (nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu) has volunteered to be the focal point for software projects. His job will be to get people with similar interests together to minimize wasted effort and people working at cross purposes. 1.3.1 Contacting software authors Whenever you are working on a port of a software package, it is always a good idea to contact the original author and offer whatever changes you needed to make in order to port the software. That way, subsequent releases of the package may include changes that allow all users of 386bsd the advantage of reusing your work over and over. Also, once you have ported a package to *BSD, you might want to send a note to either Nate Williams (nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu) letting him know that you have completed a package and where it is available. If the port was a simple recompile of the source and install, a note to one of the newsgroups telling the story could be considered appropriate as well. In keeping with that, if you find a 'bug' in 386bsd, or find a problem that causes you some headaches and find a solution, you should contact the author of the particular driver/module/program and let them know. In addition, you could also post the problem and/or fix to "comp.os.386bsd.bugs". 1.4 Minimum hardware configuration recommended There has been considerable debate about what the REAL minimum configuration for 386bsd is. Some would claim that it is the smallest computer that an installation will succeed on. Others claim that it is the smallest usable computer (based on RAM and speed constraints) and others would claim that it should be based on using 'X'-windows. For specific hardware, see Section 8 (still in development). The smallest install-able platform is an 80386, using an MGA card, with at least 2Meg of RAM and a 20 Megabyte hard disk. While not all SCSI cards (especially EISA) are supported, a great many are either in the base distribution or through patches. This configuration is tricky to prepare, and will certainly be hard to use, but it is possible. A comfortable installation which includes source and binary distributions, as well as other utilities will work in about 100Meg of hard drive. 'X' requires at least a Hercules MGA; for masochists only, from what I understand. See section 8 for more details. 1.5 Where to get the source and binaries 1.5.1 Forms available (floppy, FTP, CD-ROM) 386bsd is available in just about every format known to man, with the possible exception of stone tablets and papyrus. 1.5.1.1 Where can I get the distribution on floppy or tape? Many people will copy files onto diskettes or tapes if you coordinate it with them ahead of time. In addition, many companies offer 386bsd on various types of media for money. Austin Code Works and others (usually advertisers in PC magazines) offer the base 0.1 "official" distribution for a fee. Note that there are virtually no restrictions on distributing the 386bsd distributions. Basically, wherever you can find it, you can get it. This goes for FreeBSD and NetBSD as well. 1.5.1.2 Where can I get the distribution via FTP? The files you should look for specifically when using FTP are directories called srcdist, bindist, and etcdist. These directories will hold the files for each of the distributions. Once you have received the files via FTP, you can either load them directly onto your system and then un archive them using 'extract' or one of the other methods suggested in Section 2 of the FAQ, in the section about installing with 'real partitioning'. The list of sites that have 386BSD is covered in section 1.8 below. This list is produced automatically by using a utility called 'archie' and is updated for every new version of the FAQ. If you try to access a site from this list and find that they either don't have FTP enabled, or don't have 386bsd loaded any more, a polite letter to the admin of the system asking them to update their 'archie' entries is good manners. 1.5.1.3 Where can I get the distribution on CD ROM? Infomagic sells a UNIX CD-ROM that has 386BSD. Their FAX number is 609-683-5502. Profit Press has 386BSD dated 7/21/92 on their "Mega Win OS/2" CD-ROM. This is in the format of BINDIST, ETCDIST, SRCDIST and BOOTABLE. Profit Press 2956 N. Campbell Ave Tucson, Arizona 85719 (602) 577-9696 Their order line is 1-800-843-7990 Look for their advertisements in the back pages of Computer Shopper. The Mega series is $29.00 each or $69.00 for all three plus a fourth "Demo Disk". In all likelihood, the version 386bsd that is available on CD-ROM will be the 0.1 version, without any patches. Keep this in mind when ordering, since the first thing most people want to do is bring the system up to the current patch level. For our European users, I have included this note from Julian Stacey, (stacey@guug.de) concerning locations and methods for getting 386bsd in Europe on both CD-ROM and floppies. In Munich Germany: Buy the monthly "c't magazin fuer computer technik" (Price 8.5 DM) (~1.7 = $1) & look in back pages, I saw: Mail Order: JF Lehmanns Buchhandlung, fuer EDV, Zuelpicher Str 182, D-50937 Koeln, Germany Free catalogue for X, Linux, 386bsd, 1. Confusing advert seems to offer X11R5 + GNU + 386BSD on CD Rom "InfoMagic Vol2 No2" for Price: 149 DM. Tel. 0130 4372 (always busy, claims to be free, so don't know if +49 130 4372 viable) Fax: +49 221 415995 Shops in Berlin, Koeln, Regensburg, Ulm. (Editorial Notes: DM149 is about $75-$90 US (or a little more) and 0130 numbers are Toll Free in Germany only.) Mail Order: Computer Solutions Software GmbH Postfach 1180, D-85561 Grafing (Muenchen), Germany Tel +49 8092 5018 Fax +49 8092 31727 23 * 3.5" 1.4M flops @ Price: DM199 Order No:/Best Nr: 5099 Shop: Columbus Datentechnik, Theresienstr 63, D-80333 Muenchen, Germany Tel +49 89 5232021 Lynne wrote a short follow-up, letting us know that these companies do not send them any money. (Linux was advertised in the mag. @ 89DM, both Linux & 386BSD distributions were offered as something over 20 1M floppies ) Many people would happily under cut high price commercial distributors, pocket some for media & copying hassle and forward the remainder to subsidize Bill & Lynne's development efforts. This information is offered with no warranties, guarantees, franchise offers, or recommendations. 1.6 Electronic Information Groups for 386BSD 1.6.1 Usenet newsgroups List below are the Usenet newsgroups that were developed to support 386bsd and its descendents. In addition, general BSD questions can be posted to comp.1.bsd. Bear in mind, however; that your questions to this group should really be about BSD in general, not a specific implementation detail of *BSD. comp.os.386bsd.announce Announcements relating to the 386bsd operating system. (Moderated) Posts should be mailed to "386bsd-announce@agate.berkeley.edu". comp.os.386bsd.apps Applications which run under 386bsd. comp.os.386bsd.bugs Bugs and fixes for the 386bsd OS and its clients. comp.os.386bsd.development Working on 386bsd internals. comp.os.386bsd.misc General aspects of 386bsd not covered by other groups. comp.os.386bsd.questions General questions about 386bsd. 1.6.2 Newsgroup archives. These sites maintain a historical record of the traffic in the Usenet Newsgroups indicated. There are others, but I haven't gotten their names yet. Host Name IP address Location Newsgroups archived -------------------- -------------- -------------- ---------------- minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au 131.236.20.70 Australia comp.1.bsd src.doc.ic.ac.uk 146.169.2.1 London, UK comp.os.386bsd.* 1.6.3 BNR/2 Derived bsd mailing lists. There are at least two mailing lists for 386bsd. Both are for discussions of the patchkit and patches. They are: 386bsd_patchkit@cs.montana.edu: This list is primarily for discussion of the patchkit and other patch procedure discussions. patches@cs.montana.edu: This list is for patch submissions. NOTE: The patchkit is discussed in detail in Section 2 of the FAQ. In addition to these pure 386bsd lists mentioned above, there are mailing lists available for FreeBSD and NetBSD. Information about these lists and how to use majordomo (the list handler) is available by mailing to majordomo@sun-lamp.cs.berkeley.edu. FreeBSD also has mailing lists. 1.6.4 Other electronic resources. There are many bulletin boards throughout the world that have 386bsd software and information available. Also, there are CompuServe and other on-line services that have 386bsd discussions. 1.7 Documentation available There are two types of documentation for 386bsd. First is the set that covers the operation and theory used in BSD-Unix. These sources are often excellent for background and understanding of the current implementation of 386bsd. Second is the set of manuals written specifically for 386bsd. Most of these are books and magazine articles written by Bill and Lynne Jolitz. 1.7.1 BSD manuals The full set of BSD documentation is available via anonymous FTP from ocf.berkeley.edu in /pub/Library/Computer/doc4.3. To print this documentation on 386bsd systems, replace the ditroff references in the Makefile with 'groff -e -t -msU {SRC} >out.ps' to generate PostScript format files. Use different options to make the output conform to other print styles. The etc distribution also comes with a documentation directory ~/share/doc which has nearly 3Meg of documentation about 386bsd. In addition, on-line manuals are available in the binary distribution set. It contains specific information on the use of UNIX utilities and commands. Type "man man" for information on the online manual. 1.7.2 BSD books There is an excellent set of works recommended by Bill and Lynne in the INSTALL.NOTES. In addition, several other books have been recommended by Andrew Moore and others. For learning how to work in the Unix environment, the standard text is "The Unix Programming Environment," by Kernighan and Pike. For Unix Administration, the best is "Unix System Administration Handbook," by Nemeth, Snyder and Seebass. For systems level programming (i.e., systems calls), I recommend "Advanced Unix Programming," by Marc Rochkind. Unfortunately it is out-dated and oriented towards System V. A new book "Advanced Programming in the Unix Environment," by W. Richard Stevens is very up-to-date, and an excellent reference, especially for dealing with POSIX standards issues. For network programming, "Unix Network Programming," by W. Richard Stevens is highly regarded. The 4.3BSD Unix Manuals contain loads of invaluable tutorials and historical papers in addition to hard copies of on-line documentation. The six volume set is available from Usenix for $60.00 (email: office@usenix.org) I could go on, but let me mention just two more - if you have a full 386BSD installation, you may want to learn the bash shell (in /usr/othersrc/public). This is an extension of the Bourne shell (sh) with features from both the C shell (Csh) and the Korn shell (Ksh). The Korn shell is described in "The Kornshell," by Korn (of course). Second, I recommend you look at "The AWK Programming Language," by Aho, Weinberger and Kernighan. This is a very nice prototyping language - powerful and easy to use. Another excellent reference book for 386bsd is "The Design and Implementation of the 4.3BSD UNIX Operating system" by Samuel J. Leffler, Marshall Kirk McKusick, Michael J. Karels, John S. Quarterman, 1989, Addison-Wesley, ISBN 0-201-06196-1. While this book is out of date in many sections, it is purported to be an excellent source of historical information, if nothing else. Chris Demetriou recommends the sections on the treatment of file systems, caching and the networking layer. The sections in this books which do not apply to 386bsd include the VM section, bootstrapping, and autoconfig. In addition, there are many other books which, for one reason or another, have not made it into this brief list. Rest assured that this is not intended to be an exhaustive list by any means. In fact, Lynne Jolitz has offered to supply the FAQ with her preferred reading list describing the current and future versions of 386bsd. 1.7.3 The Jolitz Book Bill and Lynne Jolitz are writing a book about 386bsd. It will be announced once it is ready. A tentative date of late 1992 was once offered, but since it is mid-ish 1993 and no book has been announced, we can assume that it will be later than the original estimate. 1.7.4 Dr. Dobbs' journal For users who wish to understand the internals of the BNR/2 BSD family of Operating Systems originally developed and/or ported by William F. Jolitz from 1989 to the present, the most immediate and available reference is the feature series entitled "Porting UNIX to the 386: A Practical Approach", appearing in Dr. Dobbs' Journal, USA (January 1991 to July 1992) and UNIX and iX Magazines, Germany (June 1991 to present). For inquiries on the article series (including reprints), contact the magazines for information. "Porting UNIX to the 386: A Practical Approach" (feature series) by Jolitz and Jolitz 1/91: DDJ "Designing a Software Specification" 2/91: DDJ "Three Initial PC Utilities" 3/91: DDJ "The Standalone System" 4/91: DDJ "Copyright, Copyleft, and Competitive Advantage" 4/91: DDJ "Language Tools Cross-Support" 5/91: DDJ "The Initial Root Filesystem" 6/91: DDJ "Research and the Commercial Sector: Where Does BSD Fit In?" 7/91: DDJ "A Stripped-Down Kernel" 8/91: DDJ "The Basic Kernel" 9/91: DDJ "Multiprogramming and Multiprocessing, Part I" 10/91: DDJ "Multiprogramming and Multiprocessing, Part II" 11/91: DDJ "Device Autoconfiguration" 2/92: DDJ "UNIX Device Drivers, Part I" 3/92: DDJ "UNIX Device Drivers, Part II" 4/92: DDJ "UNIX Device Drivers, Part III" 5/92: DDJ "Missing Pieces, Part I" 6/92: DDJ "Missing Pieces, Part II" 7/92: DDJ "The Final Step: Running Light with 386BSD" You can contact M&T Books (DDJ) for reprints if you can't get them from your technical library: 1-800-356-2002 (inside CA) 1-800-533-4372 (North America) 1-415-358-9500 (international) 6/91: UNIX Magazin "Portierung von BSD-UNIX auf den 80386. Heimlich Liebe." 7/91: UNIX Magazin "Steighilfe." 8/91: UNIX Magazin "Systemverwaltung durch Tabellen" 9/91: UNIX Magazin "Sicher bewegen auf fremdem Terrain" 10/91: UNIX Magazin "Damit die Fehlersuche nicht zum Hurdenspringen wird" 11/91: UNIX Magazin "Alles in eine Schublade" 12/91: UNIX Magazin "Feuer und Wasser" 1/92: UNIX Magazin "Rekursives Speicher-Mapping" 2/92: UNIX Magazin "Tanz auf dem Eis" 3/92: UNIX Magazin "Aus Hanschen wird Hans" 4/92: UNIX Magazin "Das Geheimnis des Multiprogramming" 5/92: UNIX Magazin "Zeitmanagement scheibenweise" 6/92: UNIX Magazin "Magie des Kernels" 7/92: UNIX Magazin "Erkenne Dich Selbst" 9/92: UNIX Magazin "Niemand is eine Insel" 10/92: UNIX Magazin "Treiberlatein" 12/92: UNIX Magazin "Einlandung erforderlich" 1/93: iX Magazin "Wir unterbrechen das Programm" 2/93: iX Magazin "Liste gut, alles gut" 3/93: iX Magazin "Blick ins Allerheiligste" 4/93: iX Magazin "Von Bl"ocken, Ringen und Zeichen" NOTE: The series in UNIX Magazin was moved to IX Magazin in 1/93. The article in the April issue was the last one in the series. In addition, other major articles which discuss 386BSD in detail: 8/92: UNIX Magazin "Interview mit Bill Jolitz. Das passiert mit 386BSD" by Jurgen Fey 8/92: DDJ "Very High-Speed Networking" by W.F. Jolitz 12/92: DDJ "Inside the ISO-9660 Filesystem Format" by Jolitz and Jolitz Reprints of the first 19 parts on the UNIX Magazin series are available from: iX Redaktion Stichwort: 386BSD-Serie Verlag Heinz Heise GmbH & Co KG Helstorfer Str. 7 D-30625 Hannover, Germany Some of the parts are without code listings due to the unclear status of the BSD releases stemming from the Net/2 release. 1.7.5 Other FAQ's on the net that are relevant There are many FAQs that can be used in conjunction with 386bsd. These include the FAQs for all of the GNU software, the different shells that are available, the programming languages that are available, and many more. In addition, many programs have their own FAQ which should be referenced whenever that package is being added. Good examples of the latter are the FAQs for elm, C-News, and innd. The observant reader will notice that there are very few 'X' questions in this FAQ. The XFree86 FAQ is posted regularly to comp.os.386bsd.*. There is no good reason to include any 'X' questions in this FAQ, with the exception of the most basic 'Where can I get the 'X' FAQ'. Most FAQs are available by anonymous FTP from rtfm.mit.edu and via Usenet News in news.answers and/or comp.answers. This FAQ is no exception (I hope). 1.8 FTP sites for 386BSD A standard tool on Internet connected hosts for finding files is 'archie'. Searching the archie archive for either "386BSD" or "386bsd" yields the following list. For UUCP sites, FTP-Mail is available from gatekeeper.dec.com. The list below was created with an 'archie -l' on 24 Sep 1993 searching for 386bsd. For those folks that have access to telnet, but not FTP, you can use archie by using telnet and connecting to 132.206.2.3. Log in as 'archie' and use the 'prog' command to find programs of interest. The list below is included primarily for those folks that have only uucp, and will need to get their software though UUCP and other channels. 1.8.1 FTP Site List This list is automatically generated every time the FAQ is produced. Please do not request that your host be added to this list. If your host is represented in an 'archie' list, it will be reflected here. Several other sites are included in Section 1.8.4 below. Host Directory arp.anu.edu.au /archive/comp/os/386bsd/ arp.anu.edu.au /pub/386bsd/ ascwide.ascii.co.jp /pub2/language/clisp/386bsd/ azathoth.sura.net /pub/386bsd/ binkley.cs.mcgill.ca /pub/386bsd/ brolga.cc.uq.oz.au /pub/386bsd/ charon.mit.edu /pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/comp/os/386bsd/ esel.cosy.sbg.ac.at /pub/mirror/386bsd/ etlport.etl.go.jp /pub/386bsd/ etlport.etl.go.jp /pub/ccipr/386bsd/ ftp.cfi.waseda.ac.jp /pub/fj/fj.sources/386bsd/ gatekeeper.dec.com /.0/BSD/386bsd/ grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr /pub/msdos/386bsd/ hpb.mcc.ac.uk /pub/386bsd/ ipc1.rvs.uni-hannover.de /ftp1/rus/tex/systems/pc/386bsd/ isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp /ftpmail/ftp.ae.keio.ac.jp/pub/386bsd/ isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp /ftpmail/ftp.iij.ad.jp/pub/386bsd/ isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp /ftpmail/ftp.meiji.ac.jp/pub/386bsd/ isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp /ftpmail/ftp.phys.keio.ac.jp/pub/386bsd/ isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp /ftpmail/ftp.phys.keio.ac.jp/pub/tex/dviout/386bsd/ knot.queensu.ca /pub/tcrunchers/Unix/386bsd krynn.efd.lth.se /pub/386bsd/ lth.se /pub/netnews/386bsd/ metropolis.super.org /pub/386bsd/ minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de /pub0/pub/newsarchive/news/comp/os/386bsd/ nctuccca.edu.tw /USENET/FAQ/comp/os/386bsd/ nctuccca.edu.tw /USENET/alt.sources1/386bsd/ nctuccca.edu.tw /USENET/comp.archives/comp/os/386bsd/ nctuccca.edu.tw /computing-languages/lisp/clisp/386bsd/ net-1.iastate.edu /pub/386bsd/ nova.cc.purdue.edu /pub/386bsd/ oes.orst.edu /pub/386bsd/ orion.oac.uci.edu /pub/386bsd/ physics.su.oz.au /386bsd/ pinus.slu.se /pub/lang/lisp/impl/clisp/386bsd/ pinus.slu.se /pub/lang/lisp/impl/clisp/binaries/386bsd/ sifon.cc.mcgill.ca /pub/ftp_inc/386bsd/ sonata.cc.purdue.edu /pub/386bsd/ sunburn.cps.udayton.edu /pub/386bsd/ terra.stack.urc.tue.nl /pub2/386bsd/ tesla.ee.cornell.edu /pub/386bsd/ ugle.unit.no /pub/386bsd/ 1.secs.oakland.edu /pub/386bsd/ The code may soon also to be available, or perhaps is already available, from both CompuServe and BIX. 1.8.2 Official distribution sites According to Lynne Jolitz, there is no such thing as an 'official' 386bsd site. The closest we have is 'agate.berkeley.edu' which is mirrored at several of the sites listed above. 1.8.3 Reference sites For a brief period, ref.tfs.com was available for use as a reference system. This system was used as the test-bed for many programs that were ported to 386bsd by many authors. Unfortunately, ref.tfs.com has been disabled as a reference system. Once a replacement is established, it will be noted here. There is now a site in Germany that is acting as a reference site for 386bsd. The name is "g386bsd.first.gmd.de", also known as "bsd386.first.gmd.de". Sorry, no anonymous ftp yet. But there is a "guest" login with the password "guest". But the most important reason why I had installed the machine on the network was for all these people who don't have enough space to compile their own kernel or their own packages. They can do it on this machine. ATS ( ats@first.gmd.de or ats@cs.tu-berlin.de ) Also, Montana State University has offered accounts on a 386BSD machine to anyone who has a project they would like to do. Send email to nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu with the name of your project and have your account setup. As of this writing, the machine has access to both NetBSD and 386BSD 0.1 + patchkit sources online. Here is Nate's announcement. This is to announce the availability of a machine on the network available for anyone to do specific 386BSD/NetBSD projects. Unfortunately, due to a not having a T1 network link, our connection does not have the bandwidth to do the same job as 'ref' did. However, this machine can be used by anyone who does not have the resources to do projects on their own machine, or who does not have a machine to do a project on it. In addition, I have local copies of the interim release work and the NetBSD stuff (which are always a little behind due to them both being done by hand). Prerequisites for getting an account are simple: 1) telnet access so you can login - No modems are available, and you wouldn't want to pay for long distance to Montana anyway :-) 2) a specific project to accomplish/attempt 3) a mail message sent to me stating your project and an account name. The projects don't have to be overly specific, but since I can't provide access to everyone, I need projects to give to the folks who provided the resources to me a listing of the projects that are being worked on. The machine is a 486/33 with 16MB of memory and 3Gig of disk, some local and some NFS mounted. The engineering Dept.. of Montana State University has provided a large part of the resources this machine has, and backups are being done on a regular basis. Please send all requests for account to: nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu, which is the machine that is being provided for the network access. 1.8.4 Unofficial archive sites that have neat stuff! There are many sites that have things which have either been ported to 386bsd or are available to the world. Use archie to find these sites, or read comp.os.386bsd.* for more information. agate.berkeley.edu:~/0.1-ports agate.berkeley.edu:~/unofficial/from-ref Listed here because they don't have access to 'archie' yet... g386bsd.first.gmd.de -or- bsd386.first.gmd.de: Sources for 386bsd0.1 and the later patchkits. Source for NetBSD0.8 and the newer snapshots. Xfree is installed binary as version 1.3. Ported software are: tcsh6.03.00 emacs19-15 gcc-2.4.5 top3-1 perl4.0.36 elvis1.7 bison-1.21 rn and nn. In addition, ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de has a lot of neat software and Wolfram Schneider (wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) has 'ported' the FAQ into LaTeX. It is available in pub/386BSD/FAQ/tex in both PostScript and DVI formats. 1.8.5 X for 386BSD 0.1 Ported Software List This is a list of non-core X window system application that have been ported to 386BSD 0.1. The ftp server and directory name are listed above and each file or directory name is followed by a short description. Feel free to send corrections, additions or suggestions to rich@rice.edu. agate.berkeley.edu:/pub/386BSD/0.1-ports/x-apps InterViews C++ GUI class library + WYSIWYG document & graphics editors. img_1.3 raster image manipulator/viewer agate.berkeley.edu:/pub/386BSD/386bsd-0.1/unofficial/from-ref/public Xw widget library ghostscript-2.5.2 interactive postscript interpreter/viewer ghostview-1.4.1 front end processor for viewing postscript gnuplot-3.2 interactive graphics/plotting gwm generic window manager with lisp interpreter tk GUI tool kit with Tool command languate (tcl) interpreter ups C source level debugger with slick GUI xbench X server performance measurement tool xcdplayer GUI for cd player xfig interactive graphical editor xlock screen locker xntpd network time protocol??? xphoon real-time view of lunar phase xpool game of pool? xroach yep, a roach crawling on your monitor. xscreensaver screen blanker/saver xv raster image viewer xvgr ? nova.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/386bsd/submissions Xdtm-2.5.386bsd X desk top manager idraw-bin.tar.Z C++ GUI class library + WYSIWYG document & graphics editors. img1.3.386bsd.tar.Z see above mpeg_play.Z animated raster image viewer small_X11r5.tZ a minimal subset of the core distribution vogl.tar.Z a library that emulatates Silicon Graphics GL calls xview3 sun's GUI development tool kit sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/incoming: Dirt.tar.Z GUI development tool kit XBSD8514-0.1.Z 8514 X server port XS3-0.3-exp.Z S3 X server port acm.tar.Z aerial combat mission/flight simulator chess-vort-movie.tar.Z ? epoch.Z enhanced emacs for X jpeg.tar.Z jpeg viewer libXaw3d.a.Z 3D widget library mpeg-1.2.tar.Z animated raster image viewer ups-2.45.bin.tar.Z C source level debugger with slick GUI vort-movie.tar.Z ? xantfarm.tar.Z screen saver with ants? xbench.tar.Z X server performance measurement tool xpipeman.tar.Z game: connect pipes to keep a liquid within xxgdb.tar.Z GUI for GNU source level debugger -- ------ TSgt Dave Burgess NCOIC AL/Management Information Systems Office Brooks AFB, TX