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Xref: sserve comp.os.386bsd.announce:127 comp.answers:2083 news.answers:12534 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!news.dell.com!natinst.com!hrd769.brooks.af.mil!hrd769.brooks.af.mil!not-for-mail From: burgess@hrd769.brooks.af.mil (Dave Burgess) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.announce,comp.answers,news.answers Subject: [comp.os.386bsd] Berkeley Net Release/2 derived BSD for PCs FAQ (Part 9 of 10) Followup-To: comp.os.386bsd.announce Date: 27 Sep 1993 13:14:52 -0000 Organization: Armstrong Laboratory, Brooks AFB, TX Lines: 816 Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu Distribution: world Expires: 10/15/93 Message-ID: <386bsd-faq-9-749135665@hrd769.brooks.af.mil> References: <386bsd-faq-1-749135665@hrd769.brooks.af.mil> Reply-To: 386bsd-faq@hrd769.brooks.af.mil (386bsd FAQ Maintainer) NNTP-Posting-Host: hrd769.brooks.af.mil Posted-By: auto-faq 2.4 Archive-name: 386bsd-faq/part9 Section 8. ("Supported" Hardware List) Disclaimer: This list is NOT a commercial oriented effort. It is not an attempt to promote brands of computer machinery; it merely reports "happy" customers. The validity of information supplied is based solely on the validity of the statements made by the contributors. If more information is needed on a particular product please contact the contributor directly via e-mail. 8.0 What hardware is 386BSD known to run on and support! The problem with this section of the FAQ is that software is the only reason that every PC card on the planet does not work. EISA cards are not directly supported; when and if EISA is directly supported, they will give a significant performance advantage to EISA bus machines. As it happens, user who desire more than 16Meg of memory must use either VESA or EISA systems. Even with an EISA system, many users will not be able to use the address space above 16Meg unless their system uses only EISA cards for those devices that need access to DMA. The limitations are covered in another section of the FAQ. Many EISA cards operate in an ISA emulation mode. Notably, the Ultrastore 24F SCSI controller operates in an IDE emulation mode that allows the card to be used in the current system without modification. Most EISA cards that operate in ISA mode will work with 386BSD, NetBSD, or FreeBSD. Like EISA, MCA is unsupported currently; unlike EISA, it can't work until it is supported, as it doesn't fall back to ISA operation. If you want to work on this problem, I'm sure that many people will appreciate it; you will probably need an ISA or EISA machine to do the work, however. 8.1 System brand names 8.2 Motherboards Here is the list of compatible motherboards for 386bsd that I managed to collect off the network. Thanks to all of you who contributed to this effort. If some of you have knowledge of a different motherboard and want to add it to the list please send E-mail either Kostis Dryllerakis (kd@doc.ic.ac.uk) or Dave Burgess (burgess@hrd769.brooks.af.mil). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : Zeos Country of origin : USA Architecture : ISA (serial/parallel ports and controller on board) Bus Slots : 7 16-bit and 1 8-bit Chipset : Processor/Speed : 486SLC/25 Processor Cache : 8K(?) BIOS : Award w/ built-in setup (no password, though) Max Memory : 16 megs Country of availability : Price estimate : This machine was $1995. (out of production) Points of attention : Other Information : I would most likely not recommend this system, or any other system using a 486SLC...the 16 Meg limit is a real pain. Also, the system has No processor upgrade options (unlike a real 486SX)...the motherboard itself would have to be replaced. :( Contributor : Matt Beal (publius@wam.umd.edu) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : Micronics Country of origin : USA Architecture : ISA Bus Slots : 8 (all 16 bit :-) Chipset : Not Known Processor/Speed : 486/25MHz Processor Cache : 256K BIOS : Phoenix Max Memory : 16Meg Country of availability : Australia (at least) Price estimate : Not Known Points of attention : Other Information : Needed "fixed" boot floppies otherwise system would not boot from hard disk. Contributor : Brett Lymn (blymn@awadi.com.au) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : VOBIS / HIGHSCREEN Country of origin : Germany Architecture : ISA Bus Slots : 8 Chipset : OPTI / uP INTEL Processor/Speed : INTEL 80486 DX 50 Mhz Processor Cache : 256 Kb BIOS : AMI 1992 Max Memory : 32MB Country of availability : Europe Price estimate : 3000 US $ with the following configuration: 486/50 - 8 Mb RAM - HDD 210 Mb - 2 floppies - VGA card - 14" VGA Monitor - DOS/Windows/& other software. Points of attention : I paid 6000 US $ for the following configuration: 486/50 - 16 Mb RAM - SCSI card (Adaptec) 425 Mb SCSI disk - 2 floppies - 1 Mb VGA card (ET4000) - 17" professional monitor etc. The hard drive alone costs 1250 US $, but it is from a third party. The monitor alone (PHILIPS, remarked as VOBIS) costs 1000 US $. All prices are valid in Italy. Other Information : Contributor : Piero Serini (piero@strider.st.dsi.unimi.it) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : OPTI Country of origin : Architecture : ISA Bus Slots : 8 Chipset : OPTI Processor/Speed : 486DX/33 Processor Cache : 256K (can use from 64K - 512K) BIOS : AMI Max Memory : 32M Country of availability : USA, at least Price estimate : $850 (w/ 8M) ?? Points of attention : Make sure cache-able region setting matches actual size of RAM. Probably don't want BIOS shadowing. Other Information : Uses 1- or 4-Meg 80ns SIMMS, in sets of 4. (8 sockets). Contributor : Bill Warner (wtw@wpi.wpi.edu) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : unknown (board is called PAT48SA) Country of origin : unknown Architecture : ISA Bus Slots : 6x 16bit, 1x 8bit Chipset : SIS Processor/Speed : 486 33MHz Processor Cache : 256 KByte BIOS : AMI BIOS Max Memory : 32 MByte Country of availability : Germany (at least) Price estimate : Points of attention : none Other Information : Contributor : Jan Klier, Berlin - Germany (klier.cs.tu-berlin.de) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : NICE USA Country of origin : U.S.A Architecture : ISA Bus Slots : 8 Chipset : Processor/Speed : 486DX/50MHz Processor Cache : 256K BIOS : AMI Max Memory : 32MB Country of availability : Price estimate : Points of attention : Other Information : Contributor : Tom Wye TJW00@charon.amdahl.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ==== EISA MOTHERBOARDS === -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : A.I.R. (Advanced Integration Research, Inc.) Country of origin : San Jose, CA USA Architecture : EISA/Local Bus Bus Slots : 8 Total - 5 EISA, 3 EISA/Local Bus Chipset : SIS Processor/Speed : 486DX33 (20-50mhz) Processor Cache : 256Kb (64-512KB) BIOS : AMI Max Memory : 256MB max using 16M X 36 SIMMS Country of availability : U.S.A Price estimate : $475 US with 256KB cache, No processor or Memory Points of attention : Other Information : Only tested with Tiny Kernel with Adaptec 1542B and ET4000 video card. EISA and Local Bus not tested yet. Will post again with further results. Contributor : Joe Gervais joeg@Novell.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : NICE Country of origin : USA Architecture : EISA/Local Bus Bus Slots : 8 total - 5 ISA + 2 EISA/VLB + 1 EISA Chipset : HiNT Processor/Speed : 486DX/50MHZ Processor Cache : 256K BIOS : AMI Max Memory : 128MB Country of availability : USA Price estimate : $950 + memory Points of attention : none Other Information : easy boot, mini AT footprint easy boot, sudden death. first motherboard failed after one week due to temperature sensitive component. Contributor : duncan@zycad.com (Donald Duncan) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : Partner (according to supplier - board is unlabeled) Country of origin : Taiwan Architecture : EISA Bus Slots : 8 Chipset : Opti Processor/Speed : 486 DX2 66 Processor Cache : 8k internal 256k on board BIOS : AMI Max Memory : 32Mb Country of availability : UK Price estimate : 599 ex VAT including (necessary) heat sink for 486. Points of attention : Board works with 386BSD straight out of the box with defaults.. When adding memory you must use the BIOS setup to make all of the new RAM cache-able. Other Information : This board is cheap and it works. I got mine from Jupiter Systems (081 570 1011). They do a fairly wide range of boards and accessories. See Micro Mart for an advert. Contributor : David James (dwj@btcase.bt.co.uk dwj@doc.ic.ac.uk) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : Synerco, Inc. Richardson Texas (214) 669-0023 Country of origin : U.S.A. Architecture : EISA Bus Slots : 8 Chipset : SOYO Motherboard Processor/Speed : Intel/486/66MHz Processor Cache : 256K BIOS : 1990 American Megatrends Max Memory : 32 MB Country of availability : Dallas, Texas, U.S.A. Price estimate : US 3,000 Points of attention : Other Information : 1 IO card with /dev/com1=DB9 and /dev/com2=DB25 EtherCard PLUS "Elite16 Series" (io base=0x280, irq=2,iomem=0xd000) (jumper change to SOFT) (Do NOT use default setting, must use) (SMC SuperDisk a:ezsetup to adjust) Logitech MouseMan Serial Mouse (M/N: M-CJ13 -9F) plug in /dev/com1 Contributor : Jongjay Liou (jongjay@mistxt.oc.com) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : Gateway2000 Country of origin : U.S.A. Architecture : EISA Bus Slots : 8 (6 master and 2 slave?) Chipset : Processor/Speed : 486DX2-66E Processor Cache : 8 k internal 128 k external BIOS : Award (?) Max Memory : 16MB Country of availability : U.S.A. Price estimate : $4750 Points of attention : (Set Adaptec 1740 SCSI to "standard" mode) Other Information : Contributor : Daniel Ortmann <ortmann@plains.NoDak.edu> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer : Micronics Model: 5050-00-ICP/E2/256 Revision: A-1, plus rework ECN E2A07 to fix CMOS/clock problem Country of origin : USA/Taiwan Architecture : EISA & Local Bus Bus Slots : 8 EISA. 6 are bus master capable, two are not. One of the slots that can not be used for a bus master has a connector at the other end for a local bus card. So, for this slot you decide whether to plug in an EISA card or a local bus card. Chipset : Intel 357, Intel 358, and a Micronics ASIC. Processor/Speed : 486DX50 Processor Cache : 256 KB external secondary cache, 8 KB internal BIOS : Phoenix 80486/EISA, ROM BIOS PLUS version 1.01.23-2 Max Memory : 64MB Country of availability : Price estimate : $1700.00 US Points of attention : Other Information : built in floppy controller, 1 parallel port, and two serial ports. Contributor : Chris Shaker (shaker@cisco.com) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8.3 Video cards 8.4 Mice 8.5 Serial Cards 8.5.1 How do I configure multiport cards? Patchkit 0.2.4 has introduced the possibility to use multiport serial boards. How do you configure an AST/4 in the kernel? The AST/4 and its clone multiport cards can run on 386BSD using patchkit 0.2.4 and later. The only problems seem to be that the code in sioprobe() and sioattach() in sio.c needs to be hacked to get it to properly detect the ports and then recognize the type of UARTs installed (16550As). The code segment that is causing the problem is included below: The test in the sio.c driver (in the sioattach() routine) that is causing it to *think* it is a 8250 is: scr = inb(iobase + com_scr); outb(iobase + com_scr, 0xa5); scr1 = inb(iobase + com_scr); outb(iobase + com_scr, 0x5a); scr2 = inb(iobase + com_scr); outb(iobase + com_scr, scr); if (scr1 != 0xa5 || scr2 != 0x5a) <--- this is it! printf(" <8250>"); This test seems to be depending upon the absence of the com_scr register in the 8250 (iobase+7). Unfortunately, the AST 4-port card uses this last register of the last UART for interrupt status (for the 4 UARTs), hence the last port of the 4 fails the test. The easiest fix is to simply delete this test in your copy of sio.c (If you *know* that you have no 8250s). The Bocaboard (BB1008) fails the same way on *all* 8 of its ports (the +7 address register is replicated for each port according to the documentation). There are also some problems with another test in the if statement: if ( inb(iobase + com_cfcr) != CFCR_8BITS || inb(iobase + com_ier) != IER_ETXRDY || inb(iobase + com_mcr) != MCR_IENABLE || !isa_irq_pending(dev) <--- this one fails! || (inb(iobase + com_iir) & IIR_IMASK) != IIR_TXRDY || isa_irq_pending(dev) || (inb(iobase + com_iir) & IIR_IMASK) != IIR_NOPEND) result = 0; in the sioprobe() routine for a couple of the ports on the 4-port card. Again, the fix is simply to remove that particular test and everything seems to be okay. These are admittedly pretty ugly hacks, but when you're in a pinch to the system back up... What you need in the config file is: sio0 -> COM1 sio1 -> COM2 (both should be recognized and work just fine) sio2 @ 0x1a0 irq 9 flags 0x0501 sio3 @ 0x1a8 irq 9 flags 0x0501 sio4 @ 0x1b0 irq 9 flags 0x0501 sio5 @ 0x1b8 irq 9 flags 0x0501 Other folks have reported that their configuration looks very similar to this, though they are using irq 5 for the 4-port card. (above paraphrased from Bob Willcox, et al) 8.6 Disk Controllers 8.7 SCSI Controllers 8.8 Network Cards 8.9 Printers 8.10 TAPE Drives Editor's note: This tapedrive list is maintained by the original authors. If you have additions, corrections, changes, or deletions, please be sure to contact the folks listed in the next paragraph. These tape drives have been reported as working (or not working) on 386BSD or NetBSD, either in articles on USENET or in response to previous postings. If you know any more details, want to point out errors, know another tape drive works (or doesn't), have any suggestions for additions/changes to the FAQ, or anything else useful, please send your reports to: andrew@oti.on.ca (Andrew Cornwall) or rsk@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Bob Kemp) PLEASE HELP TO 16 Sep 1993 THIS LIST BY PROVIDING COMMENTS AND NEW INFO. IN RETURN, WE WILL POST UPDATES AND TRY TO MAKE THE LIST AVAILABLE TO ANYONE INTERESTED. IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: This list is not guaranteed to be 100% correct. We don't know much about tape drives as yet, so we are only collating information provided by others. By getting feedback on this list, we hope to improve it into an FAQ. EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THANK-YOU: Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this list. Without your help, it wouldn't exist! ------------------------------------------------------------------- Minor Corrections to: Wangtek 5150ES Tandberg 3820 5 1/4" HH internal QIC 525 SCSI streamer =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- MANUFACTURER CONTACTS: Archive is a Maynard company bought by Conner Sales: +1 714 641 0279 Technical: +1 800 227 6296 [informant: mq8qc@qcunix.acc.qc.edu (KARAGEORGIOU ANGELOS)] ------------------------------------------------------------------- COMPATIBLE TAPE DRIVES: Format of each entry is as follows: Name: {name of the device; if you're reporting, please be as specific as possible} Capacity: {Maximum size of the device} Approx Cost: {Roughly what you paid} Interface: {How it talks to the machine - SCSI, PC bus, etc} Controllers: {What controller you're using - Adaptec 1542B, etc} Informant: {Who says it works} Comments: {Anything good or bad you feel like saying} Name: Archive 2060 Capacity: 60MB Approx Cost: US$200 Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 1542b, Adaptec 1742a Informant: duncan@zycad.com Comments: no observed problems when used with julian's drivers. works fine with 1542b/1742a Name: Archive 2150 Capacity: 250Mb Approx cost: US$350-500 Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 1542b, Adaptec 1742a Informant: ejh@slustl.slu.edu (Eric J. Haug) admerlev@cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (me 8-)) duncan@zycad.com jfieber@sophia.smith.edu Comments: works well with both the driver in the distribution kernel and julians' SCSI drivers. [ejh] nice device!!!, works like a charm, tar w/ original scsi-driver plus variable block length patch, under DOS: GTAR, ASPIBIN (ASPI-TAR), PCTOOLS 8.0, COREL-SCSI works fine with julian's drivers and 1542b/1742a [admerlev/duncan] and with Adaptec 1542C + Julian's SCSI drivers [jfieber] Name: Archive 2525-S (Firmware Rev. 25462-007 - seems to be important [nbladt]) Capacity: QIC-24 (?), QIC-120, QIC-150, QIC-525 Approx Cost: ca. 1000,- DM (about US$ 600 ?) Interface: SCSI-1 Controllers: Adaptec 1542B, Adaptec 1542C, Adaptec 1742A, Adaptec 1742B Informant: nbladt@autelca.ascom.ch (Norbert Bladt) hm@hcshh.hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) loodvrij%cyb@fredbox.cts.com (Bruce J. Keeler) Comments: In contrary to what my dealer told me, it can read and WRITE QIC-150 tapes. Didn't have a chance to try QIC-120, or QIC-60, etc. yet. I am using 386bsd-0.1 (still with the first patchkit and all updates from Julian for his fabulous SCSI-driver kit) Sorry, no experience with the original driver because that driver doesn't work with the 1742A. [nbladt] Worked with Julian's driver out of the box. [hm] Seems to stream just fine with tar under stock NetBSD-0.8. Can't seem to get restore to work properly with it, or get it to read any other capacity of tape, but that may be my fault.... [loodvrij] Name: Cipher Model 540 Capacity: 45M/60M (probably/hopefully) Approx Cost: Loaned to me in `vintage appearance' (Much dust) - No idea ! Interface: SCSI 1 Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: Julian Stacey <stacey@guug.de> Comments: Shows promise, Cant yet call it truly usefull though: The Good Bit: I have seen it stream constantly on 386bsd. The Bad Bit: I can't use it as a usefull drive because it keeps dropping out with errors. The fault does not lie in the media, & most probably not with external power supply or scsi cable - I'm working on it. Name: CIPHER MicroStreamer F880 (1600bpi, 9 track PERTEC interface) Capacity: ??? Approx Cost: $5000 for the drive in 1985 $1000 for protocol Converter 1992 Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec AHA-1542A to NCR ADP-53 to tape drive Informant: mike@scrooge.uoregon.edu (Mike Hoffman) Comments: It is FAST, reads tape about the same speed as rewind. The SCSI controller runs the 9 track drive thru the converter and an Archive 2060S 60mb Cartridge tape drive directly. After putting in the current patches and reading the PERTEC Specs it was almost "plug and play". The ADP-53 is a protocol converter from/to SCSI/PERTEC, purchased from Laguna Data Systems (see Byte Magazine). Problems: mt does not seem to be of much use. Forward spacing the 9 track tape is an iffy job (skipping the label on a labeled tape). dd now does this (skip=1). I always get the error 'cannot prevent/allow'. This is not a big deal (prevent or allow removal of tape). dd does not handle cr/lf at all well. Could be all the protocol conversions or gnu dd just doesn't do it. All files are read in as one line(no CR Lf etc). The blocking and conversion options have no effect on line length. Conversion from EBCDIC to ASCII works fine. A small program to break up the file solves the long line problem. Name: Cipher ST-150F Capacity: 150Mb Approx cost: US$300 (incl. interface) Interface: QIC-02 Controllers: Cipher Informant: hideki@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp (YOSHIDA Hideki) Comments: works well with blocksize <= 4b Name: Cipher ST150-S Capacity: QIC-24(read only), QIC-120, QIC-150 Approx Cost: 1300,- DM (long ago ..) Interface: SCSI (better SCSI-I or CCS) Controllers: Adaptec 1542B, 1742 Informant: Hellmuth Michaelis (hm@hcshh.hcs.de) Comments: This drive responds with empty strings if asked for for it's vendors name and model. It has a strange format of the mode sense/set command blocks. By default, it reports a soft error back to the host which makes it a bit hard to work with. Problems solved with next release of Julian Elischer's enhanced SCSI driver (currently beta, July '93). Someone from Australia reported that there is an upgrade to SCSI-2 available, but since Cipher was sold to Archive who was sold to Maynard who was sold to Conner, I could not verify this. Name: COMTEK Gigatape 1200 4mm external DAT Capacity: 1.2 Gb Approx Cost: US$800 Interface: SCSI 1 Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: Rich@rice.edu Comments: Uses formatted, fixed blocksize tapes. Only partial success writing about 400Mb so far. Name: DEC TZ30 Capacity: 96 MB (uses 3M CompacTape cartridges) Approx cost: Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 154xB Informant: davidb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (David Burren) May 1993 Comments: Works with Julian's SCSI drivers. Console reports "cannot prevent/allow" but this is not a problem. This is the native-SCSI half-height version of DEC's TK50Z drive. Name: DEC TZ857 Capacity: 18.2 GB (stacker unit with seven 2.6 GB CompacTape III tapes) Approx cost: lots Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 154xB Informant: davidb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (David Burren) May 1993 Comments: Works with Julian's SCSI drivers. As with the TZ30, "cannot prevent/allow" is reported but operation continues. As 386bsd has no "mt online" yet, cartridge loading is done manually, but unloading/advancing is done through "mt offline" as under Ultrix. I don't really use this drive, but I had access to it for a day and tried it out... Name: Exabyte 8200 8mm Capacity: 2.2 GB Approx cost: Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 154xB Informant: davidb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (David Burren) May 1993 Comments: Works perfectly with Julian's SCSI drivers. I use it all the time for my system dumps and for exchanging files with other machines. Name: Hewlett-Packard HP35480A DAT drive Capacity: 4 GB Approx Cost: $1400 Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: karl@neosoft.com Comments: Great drive, flawless performance. Requires variable length tapedrive patches which should be in the patchkit, but I haven't checked. (They were submitted around November of '92) Name: Sankyo ST525 Capacity: 525 Mbyte Approx Cost: 6000 SEK (US$850) Interface: SCSI (SCSI-2) Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: jonas@carmen.volvo.se (Jonas Lagerblad) Comments: everything works allright except for one crash The SCSI bus seemed hang after running "dump 0uf - /dev/rsd0a | gzip --best | dd of=/dev/rst0 bs=64k" for approx 1 hour. If I skip the compression everything works perfectly. (I am using Julian's SCSI driver) 386BSD-0.1 patchkit 0.2 patches 0-110 Name: Tandberg 3600 series Capacity: Approx cost: Interface: Controllers: Informant: fredriks@austin.ibm.com (Lars Fredriksen) Comments: IN DEVELOPMENT. So far I have it working with fixed and variable block micro code (original Tandberg vs. IBM firmware). I am adding support for selecting densities for the minor devices via IOCTLS,as well as setting the fixed blocksize via IOCTL. This work is almost done, and I will send the driver to julian. I see him as the distributor of fixes to his own code. So far I have not had any problems reading 30/60/150/250 Mb tapes. similarly no problems writing 150/250 Mb tapes. Name: Tandberg 3660 Capacity: 250Mb Approx cost: Interface: Controllers: Informant: Per Anders Olausson <pao@cd.chalmers.se> meidinge@ps2zenger1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de(Thomas Meidinger) Comments: DC6250, DC6150 (not tested) and DC600A. Reads and writes DC-6120 as well. [pao] Name: Tandberg 3820 5 1/4" HH internal QIC 525 SCSI streamer Capacity: up to 520Mb (depending on media) uncompressed Approx cost: (I bought mine two years ago--it wasn't cheap :-) Interface: SCSI-1/2 Controllers: AHA1542B, 1742A, DTC3290 Informant: tmh@first.gmd.de (Thomas M. Hoberg) stacey@guug.de (Julian Stacey) tomb@gator.bocaraton.ibm.com (Thomas Bagli) Comments: Works well with both the driver in the distribution kernel and julians' SCSI drivers. Reads all QIC media (tested QIC 40/60/120/150/525) Writes QIC 120/150/250/320/525 (120/150/525 tested) Includes a 256k buffer. 2 rw speeds: 83k/s for QIC<320, 200k/sec for 320+ Occasionally the file system can't keep up at 200k/sec on backups (small files), somewhat more often on restores. The drive can directly seek to any block on the tape, so in theory at least with the appropriate device drive you could mount a file system on it (you better keep fragmentation low :-) As you can guess, I am EXTREMELY happy with it. [tmh] The Good Bit: It streams constantly without error (~40mins for 525M write @ 60K blocking). Tape drive shares bus with 3 SCSI-2 Seagate drives also OK with a SCSI-1 Micropolis 1684-7. The Bad Bit: We (several us of using these TDC3820s on different hardware) have undergone an eerom + eprom autodensity upgrade to allow 150M writes (previously could only read 150M tapes +r&w 525M); this known as Revision 04908, Done 92 08 28. There is some kind of block size problem that prevents us reliably exchanging 525M tapes, 150M seems OK, problem is tape hardware oriented I believe, not 386BSD specific. Problem pre-existed the 150M write capability upgrade. A friend with same 386bsd + TDC3820 + 1542A can't read my tapes, neither can a PCS (M68000 based) computer with a TDC3820 [stacey] We paid DM1000 (~$625) in early 1991. This was a very special price, and I estimate that the actual cost would be (very) approximately 50% more (~$950). I've used it with an Adaptec 1742A, a DTC3290 (caching 1542B emulation), and a Mylex ?376? (caching, but only under DOS) SCSI controllers. It doesn't just stream, it screams. I've never seen a streamer that just streams without a pause, rewind or such. This one does (not to say that the Tandberg is the sole reason for this). [tomb] Name: WangDAT 3200 Capacity: 2Gb (up to 8Gb w/compression) on a 90 meter tape Approx cost: US$1200-$1300 approx Interface: SCSI Controllers: Informant: conklin@talisman.kaleida.com (J.T. Conklin) cgd@postgres.Berkeley.edu Comments: Works great with Julian's SCSI drivers and an Adaptec 1742... (I use it to do my dumps, and I've actually checked and made sure the restores work... 8-) [cgd] Name: Wangtek 5099EN Capacity: Approx cost: Interface: Controllers: Informant: Original 386bsd.FAQ Comments: Name: Wangtek 5099SC24, this is a QIC drive (same mechanical drive as 5099EN24) with a QIC24 to SCSI board by wangtek full height Capacity: 60Mb w/DC600A, 100Mb w/DC6250 Approx cost: Used as is drives US$25.00/each, refurbs ~US$100.00 Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: rgrimes@agora.rain.com Comments: works well with both the driver in the distribution kernel and julians' SCSI drivers. Very old full height driver readily availiable in the surplus market. I know where there are 50 or so of these for $25.00/each as is, they are pulls from old workstations. Name: Wangtek 5150EQ Capacity: 250MB (QIC-150) Approx cost: 400 UK pounds including software for DOS Interface: QIC-02 Controllers: Wangtek QIC-02 included Informant: kd@doc.ic.ac.uk (K J Dryllerakis) Comments: Works with stock driver. Very very slow but reliable. Funny, it only seems to work if you use /dev/wt0 instead of /dev/rwt0. New driver in beta version by micke@dynas.se (Mikael Hybsch). Name: Wangtek 5150ES Capacity: 250Mb Approx cost: Interface: SCSI Controllers: Adaptec 1542B Informant: berry@max.IN-Berlin.DE (Stefan Behrens) duncan@zycad.com (Don) Comments: [With original 0.1 SCSI ...] it streams constantly and works without any errors. Works with original as.c driver and with newer drivers from Julian [eg in patchkit 0.2.4]. [berry] Does not work with the 1742a and 386bsd!!!!! SCSI driver compatibility problems. [duncan, ~Jun'93] NOTE: with the latest patchkit Stefan Behrens [berry] has reported that Julian's SCSI now works with it. No update yet on 1742C behaviour. Name: Wangtek 5525ES Capacity: 525M Approx cost: US$600, CDN$1000 Interface: Adaptec 1542B, Adaptec 1742 Controllers: SCSI Informant: bky@eco.twg.com (Brian Yasaki) andrew@noware.ocunix.on.ca (Andrew Cornwall) Comments: Writes QIC120, 150, 250, 525. Reads QIC24 as well (untested). Works with the distribution kernel. Name: Wangtek QT60 (aka Tecmar QT60) Capacity: 60M Approx cost: Interface: QIC 02 Informant: tcombs@pacific.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Tim Combs) Comments: It works although does not stream under 386BSD 0.1 END OF COMPATIBLE TAPE DRIVE LIST 8.11 CD-ROMs The Sony Multispin drives work good for Charles Hannum under NetBSD, using the SCSI controller. -- ------ TSgt Dave Burgess NCOIC AL/Management Information Systems Office Brooks AFB, TX