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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!uunet!usc!news From: merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: AT&T vs. BSDI --> 4.3BSD-NET2 distribution requires AT&T license!!! Keywords: AT&T 'Death Star' rises over BSDI's horizon [Tel. 1-800-800-4BSD Message-ID: <l6nibgINNje6@neuro.usc.edu> Date: 21 Jul 92 08:23:12 GMT Article-I.D.: neuro.l6nibgINNje6 Sender: merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin) Organization: Neural, Informational & Behavioral Sciences, USC, LA, CA 90089 Lines: 101 NNTP-Posting-Host: neuro.usc.edu Two days ago I told a colleague in Psychology that the world had changed -- we spent several hours talking about the possibilities for good which arose from the free or at least very low cost release of 386BSD & BSD/386. However, AT&T [and it's massive army of high paid staff attorneys] have fired the first shot in a legal action which may doom such possibilities. Tomorrow I'm going to have to tell him the forces of darkness and greed have decended to crush hope of using UNIX in extremely low cost systems. The bottom line is that AT&T claims NET2 is contaminated with intellectual property misappropriated from AT&T -- perhaps not direct copies of source code -- but at least ways of doing things (trade secrets) -- and therefore any system derived from NET2 requires an AT&T source code license [it used to be about $10,000 to get an AT&T source license]. The threat is twofold o AT&T can sue anyone who has any assets or any prospect of assets for each and every copy of an operating system maintained or allowed to be copied by any individual without payment of the AT&T license fee o AT&T can withdraw it's contribution from any organization which would permit the maintenance or copying of systems derived from 4.3BSD-NET2 AT&T's complaint 92-1667 filed in US District Court--New Jersey claims: o AT&T authorized the UC Regents to distribute certain works derived from their UNIX software to third parties ... subject to restrictions o Those restrictions include a requirement limiting such distribution to persons who have also acquired licenses from AT&T or USL o 'Networking Release 2' contains software code that was copied from, based upon, or derived from, code licensed to the Regents by AT&T o Any operating system derived from 'Networking Release 2' requires a license from AT&T or its successor, USL AT&T's entire complaint is contained in a false advertising and unfair competition claim based on BSDI's brochure which states BSDI sources are not derived from AT&T code --and-- do not require an AT&T source license. AT&T's 1-MAY-92 interrogatory (a series of questions to an adversary) asks: o Whether anyone related to BSDI has ever had access to AT&T UNIX sources o How much employee time was spent to develop BSDI's source code product BSDI's motion to dismiss and subsequent press releases argue that AT&T has not made out an adequate case of copyright infringement -- and -- therefore cannot maintain their claim of false advertising or unfair competition until they prove what BSDI would like to say is a simple copyright claim. However, the AT&T claim is not a copyright claim -- it is a claim that BSDI incorporated intellectual property belonging to AT&T into the BSDI product. The intellectual property may be in the form of copyright, patent, or trade secret protected material. While NET2 may not literally contain any direct copies of AT&T source code -- it is very possible it contains a translation or adaptation of copyrighted material -- or it may contain a patented means of performing some task -- or it may be based on knowledge of the original techniques [trade secrets] embodied in the AT&T source code. Hence, AT&T only has to prove that someone involved in CSRG's NET2 release or in BSDI's BSD/386 development had access to AT&T licensed materials at some time in his/her lifetime to trigger the spectre of contamination of BSDI's product. BSDI's position is in stark contrast the Phoenix BIOS project where two teams of engineers worked in parallel -- one team developing a functional specification by studying the original IBM BIOS ROM chip codes -- and a second completely independent and compartmentalized team developing code. There is no suggestion either CSRG or BSDI made any effort to institute similar means to prevent the incorporation of AT&T technology in BSD/386. Further, AT&T's question about the time investment of BSDI in bringing out their product [compared with their own cost over many years] will likely go a long way toward supporting their unfair competition claim. If it took a small company like BSDI only a couple of years with a small team of people to produce BSD/386 vs the multi year investment of a corporate giant - then it is very possible AT&T may prevail on the unfair competition claim. On a final note, BSDI's own press release states that: Although USL has not sued the University of California, we expect that USL (or its parent, ATT) will threaten to review or withdraw research grants made to any university or research institution using or distributing software based on NET2 ... All in all, this filing by a corporate giant with virtually unlimited funds for legal expenses would seem to spell the doom of 'free' UNIX projects as they are presently conceived. There is simply too much risk someone with a prior exposure to AT&T source codes could manage to contaminate the product. Sigh, AJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Alexander-James Annala Principal Investigator Neuroscience Image Analysis Network HEDCO Neuroscience Building, Fifth Floor University of Southern California University Park Los Angeles, CA 90089-2520 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------