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From: nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.apps
Subject: Re: [available] sound applications: xboing, tracker and NetBSD-0.8.sound
Date: 9 Oct 1993 00:22:08 GMT
Organization: Montana State University, Bozeman MT
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In article <hastyCELqH6.2A7@netcom.com>,
Amancio Hasty Jr <hasty@netcom.com> wrote:
[ NetBSD 0.8 a.out format ]
>In article <294plg$c9e@pdq.coe.montana.edu> nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams) writes:
>>Hmm, what about the BSDI (non-network byte order) format? I'm not
>>absolutlely positive, but fairly sure that the format was DIFFERENT than
>>the FreeBSD/386BSD format, and it was changed yet again in 0.8-current to
>>be the new network-byte order format it is now.
>>
>
>*********
>>So the default format is NOT compatible with 386BSD. If you have definite
>>knowlege of this not being the case, then by all means correct me, but
>>I'm positive that NetBSD has had at least 2 different a.out formats released
>>to the public since it's beginnings.
>>
>>
>*********
>
>I still think that the NetBSD-0.8 executables are binary compatible
^^^^^
>with 386bsd perhaps not with FreeBSD.
Don't think, find out. This discussion needs facts, not opinions.
Since FreeBSD executables are EXACTLY the same format as 386bsd, then that
statement is impossible.
> I had binaries from 386bsd
>working with my NetBSD-0.8 system and had no problems. In fact,
>I had the capability of booting 386bsd or NetBSD-0.8 from a
>separate disk and I assured you that I did shared binaries.
Yes, that is fine, but we're talking about NetBSD executables on
other systems, not other systems executables on NetBSD. The executables
that NetBSD PRODUCES are NOT compatible with 386bsd or FreeBSD, because
the DEFAULT format is NOT the same.
>To the best of my knowledge there was only one format available
>under the first NetBSD-0.8 release there was no other option.
The DEFAULT format was BSDI's QMAGIC format, which was modified
in NetBSD 0.9 to include the network byte order stuff.
>I suggest that you let the NetBSD team speak for their products instead
>of guessing.
Right, but I understand the history of the product, and I'm NOT stating
untruths. I corrected a misunderstanding someone made, and you are
continuing on spreading it without any factual information, so you are
guessing as well.
>Is not a flame is just that the they released NetBSD so
>by far they are the most qualified to state things such as the exact
>a.out format of their binaries.
And so far they have opted to not say anything, so an informed guess is
better than an uninformed guess.
Nate
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