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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.apps Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!decwrl!decwrl!csus.edu!netcom.com!hasty From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) Subject: Re: [available] sound applications: xboing, tracker and NetBSD-0.8.sound Message-ID: <hastyCELqH6.2A7@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <28qme0$bgo@pdq.coe.montana.edu> <33223@ksr.com> <294plg$c9e@pdq.coe.montana.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 23:27:06 GMT Lines: 69 In article <294plg$c9e@pdq.coe.montana.edu> nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams) writes: >In article <33223@ksr.com>, John F. Woods <jfw@ksr.com> wrote: >>nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams) writes: >>>In article <28p0cfINNaqe@flinx.robin.de>, >>>Hannes Deeken <hannes@flinx.RoBIN.de> wrote: >>>>jkh@whisker.lotus.ie writes: >>>>>>As for the binaries compiled under NetBSD-0.8, there is only one >>>>!!! ^ >>>>>>format available and it is the same as for 386bsd-0.1. >>>>>Sorry, but this is just wrong. >>>The default executable format for NetBSD is *NOT* the same format as the >>>stock 386BSD and FreeBSD a.out format. >> >>The default executable format for NetBSD-0.8, as ->released<-, was the 386BSD >>a.out format. The "network byte order" a.out format hit NetBSD-0.8-current >>about a week or two after the official release, I think, so anyone who was >>keeping up with NetBSD-current probably strongly associates the byteswapped >>format with 0.8. > >Hmm, what about the BSDI (non-network byte order) format? I'm not >absolutlely positive, but fairly sure that the format was DIFFERENT than >the FreeBSD/386BSD format, and it was changed yet again in 0.8-current to >be the new network-byte order format it is now. > ********* >So the default format is NOT compatible with 386BSD. If you have definite >knowlege of this not being the case, then by all means correct me, but >I'm positive that NetBSD has had at least 2 different a.out formats released >to the public since it's beginnings. > > ********* I still think that the NetBSD-0.8 executables are binary compatible with 386bsd perhaps not with FreeBSD. I had binaries from 386bsd working with my NetBSD-0.8 system and had no problems. In fact, I had the capability of booting 386bsd or NetBSD-0.8 from a separate disk and I assured you that I did shared binaries. To the best of my knowledge there was only one format available under the first NetBSD-0.8 release there was no other option. Can any of you grab the xboing binary which I released available at sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/incoming/sound and tried it out? Has anyone out there tried out the NetBSD kernel with sound blaster support which I released in their 386bsd or FreeBSD system also the sound binaries available over at sunvis....? I suggest that you let the NetBSD team speak for their products instead of guessing. Is not a flame is just that the they released NetBSD so by far they are the most qualified to state things such as the exact a.out format of their binaries. Tnks, Amancio -- This message brought to you by the letters X and S and the number 3 Amancio Hasty | Home: (415) 495-3046 | ftp-site depository of all my work: e-mail hasty@netcom.com | sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/incoming