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From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr)
Subject: Re: [available] sound applications: xboing, tracker and NetBSD-0.8.sound
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References: <28qme0$bgo@pdq.coe.montana.edu> <33223@ksr.com> <294plg$c9e@pdq.coe.montana.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 23:27:06 GMT
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In article <294plg$c9e@pdq.coe.montana.edu> nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams) writes:
>In article <33223@ksr.com>, John F. Woods <jfw@ksr.com> wrote:
>>nate@bsd.coe.montana.edu (Nate Williams) writes:
>>>In article <28p0cfINNaqe@flinx.robin.de>,
>>>Hannes Deeken <hannes@flinx.RoBIN.de> wrote:
>>>>jkh@whisker.lotus.ie writes:
>>>>>>As for the binaries compiled under NetBSD-0.8, there is only one
>>>>!!!                                           ^
>>>>>>format available and it is the same as for 386bsd-0.1.
>>>>>Sorry, but this is just wrong.
>>>The default executable format for NetBSD is *NOT* the same format as the 
>>>stock 386BSD and FreeBSD a.out format.
>>
>>The default executable format for NetBSD-0.8, as ->released<-, was the 386BSD
>>a.out format.  The "network byte order" a.out format hit NetBSD-0.8-current
>>about a week or two after the official release, I think, so anyone who was
>>keeping up with NetBSD-current probably strongly associates the byteswapped
>>format with 0.8.
>
>Hmm, what about the BSDI (non-network byte order) format?  I'm not
>absolutlely positive, but fairly sure that the format was DIFFERENT than
>the FreeBSD/386BSD format, and it was changed yet again in 0.8-current to
>be the new network-byte order format it is now.
>

*********
>So the default format is NOT compatible with 386BSD.  If you have definite
>knowlege of this not being the case, then by all means correct me, but
>I'm positive that NetBSD has had at least 2 different a.out formats released
>to the public since it's beginnings.
>
>
*********

I still think that the NetBSD-0.8 executables are binary compatible
with 386bsd perhaps not with FreeBSD. I had binaries from 386bsd
working with my NetBSD-0.8 system and had no problems. In fact,
I had the capability of booting 386bsd or NetBSD-0.8 from a 
separate disk and I assured you that I did shared binaries.


To the best of my knowledge there was only one format available
under the first NetBSD-0.8 release there was no other option.

Can any of you grab the xboing binary which I released available
at sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/incoming/sound and tried it
out?

Has anyone out there tried out the NetBSD kernel with sound blaster support
which I released in their 386bsd or FreeBSD system also the sound 
binaries available over at sunvis....?

I suggest that you let the NetBSD team  speak for their products instead
of guessing. Is not a flame is just that the they released NetBSD so
by far they are the most qualified to state things such as the exact
a.out format of their binaries.




Tnks,
	Amancio


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