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From: becker@super.org (Donald J. Becker)
Subject: Re: FYI.. benchmarks on linux and 386bsd
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References: <2CB12A8D.17397@news.service.uci.edu> <MYCROFT.93Oct6054959@duality.gnu.ai.mit.edu> <29klpf$8ae@kralizec.zeta.org.au>
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 20:15:11 GMT
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In <MYCROFT.93Oct6054959@duality.gnu.ai.mit.edu> mycroft@duality.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum) writes:

>1) When diddling lots of small files or other operations on file
>system metastructure, one must consider that Linux uses write-behind
>for this and therefore risks serious file system corruption should the
>machine crash.  (Back when Linux crashed a couple of times per day for
>me, I had no end of file system corruption which caused me to have to
>reinstall.  I assume it does not crash that often now, but this is
>still a serious bug.)  This also makes Linux's file systems faster.

I find the Linux filesystems to be very robust and reliable in the face of
crashes.  Over the past week I crashed my machine countless times developing
the EtherExpress driver.  I want a fast reboot cycle, so I haven't run a
fsck the whole time, but my file system still shows no signs of corruption.

On the other hand, I was playing with a brand-new Solaris-based Sparc a few
months ago.  I had been "just switch off" _once_ after it complained about not
finding the OS media.  That was enough to fatally scrog the pre-installed FS,
and thus install program.  This changed a "fast, easy install" into hours of
making new file systems and seeing it they worked with the OS install disk.

Now people might claim that these are unique occurrences, but the only way to
judge file system reliability is real-world experience.  Theoretically
reliable file systems can still have out-of-order-write bugs, and risky file
systems can have very narrow windows of vulnerability.

In article <29klpf$8ae@kralizec.zeta.org.au>,
Bruce Evans <bde@kralizec.zeta.org.au> wrote:
>A measly 10 to 20 times faster.  This is one thing makes Linux "feel"
>much faster (up to 10 to 20 times :-) than 386BSD.

I value "perky" highly.

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Donald Becker					       becker@super.org
IDA Supercomputing Research Center
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