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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!mcsun!ieunet!ieunet!dec4ie.ieunet.ie!jkh From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard) Subject: Re: [FreeBSD] Is a YP/NIS client available? In-Reply-To: deraadt@fsa.ca's message of Thu, 14 Oct 1993 22: 27:43 GMT Message-ID: <JKH.93Oct16013919@whisker.lotus.ie> Sender: usenet@ieunet.ie (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: whisker.lotus.ie Organization: Lotus Development Ireland References: <661@apdnews.idca.tds.philips.nl> <29cbe8$pca@wzv.win.tue.nl> <29e12d$ege@mips.arb-phys.uni-dortmund.de> <DERAADT.93Oct12052011@newt.fsa.ca> <JKH.93Oct14150916@impala.lotus.com> <DERAADT.93Oct14152743@newt.fsa.ca> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1993 01:39:19 GMT Lines: 49 In article <DERAADT.93Oct14152743@newt.fsa.ca> deraadt@fsa.ca (Theo de Raadt) writes: Please just ignore Jordan. He hates my guts and just loves to argue; especially when it lets him assume things; ie. that a person who doesn't want to reinstall might not have the source tree online (many don't.) Sigh... Whether or not I "hate Theo's guts" or not is hardly important or germain to this argument, and I'd like to ask others to completely ignore this particular irrelevancy in following up to this topic. It's flame-bait, and we hardly need any more flames here. As to assuming things, I can assure Mr. de Raadt that there are no assumptions made in my previous statements. Those without sources have always had the option to wait for binary upgrade releases, and the fact that I didn't mention them explicitly did not mean that I hadn't taken them into account. What has to be taken into account when blithely suggesting that folks "switch" is the fact that a lot more than loading a few binaries onto one's system are involved. When switching between any of the variants of *BSD, one is suddenly faced with slightly different ways of doing things, different people to talk to, and different mailing lists to track. Installing binaries is the *easy* part of loading any new system, it's learning to live with it afterwards and taking those first cautious and uncertain steps (for almost any user) that takes time. It was my intention only to make plain the fact that the YP needs of our users are NOT being ignored, and that we have every intention of getting YP into FreeBSD as soon as it's reasonably possible. There are a lot of things to do, and I'm afraid that fixing bugs and cleaning out old cruft has to take priority over adding new things like YP. This doesn't mean that it isn't a priority, just that there have been other pressing matters to focus on before now. If this code is installed in a way that is even a touch different than the way it is installed in NetBSD, you'll be creating a binary compatibility problem. You'd better be damned sure you do it 100% the We know. A number of people have access to both systems and we're well aware of the importance of binary compatability. Jordan -- (Jordan K. Hubbard) jkh@violet.berkeley.edu, jkh@al.org, jkh@whisker.lotus.ie I do not speak for Lotus, nor am I even a Lotus employee. I am an independent contractor.