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From: jkh@whisker.lotus.ie (Jordan K. Hubbard)
Subject: Re: [FreeBSD] Is a YP/NIS client available?
In-Reply-To: deraadt@fsa.ca's message of Thu, 14 Oct 1993 22: 27:43 GMT
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In article <DERAADT.93Oct14152743@newt.fsa.ca> deraadt@fsa.ca (Theo de Raadt) writes:

   Please just ignore Jordan. He hates my guts and just loves to argue;
   especially when it lets him assume things; ie. that a person who
   doesn't want to reinstall might not have the source tree online (many
   don't.)

Sigh...  Whether or not I "hate Theo's guts" or not is hardly
important or germain to this argument, and I'd like to ask others to
completely ignore this particular irrelevancy in following up to this
topic.  It's flame-bait, and we hardly need any more flames here.

As to assuming things, I can assure Mr. de Raadt that there are no
assumptions made in my previous statements.  Those without sources
have always had the option to wait for binary upgrade releases, and
the fact that I didn't mention them explicitly did not mean that I
hadn't taken them into account.

What has to be taken into account when blithely suggesting that folks
"switch" is the fact that a lot more than loading a few binaries onto
one's system are involved.  When switching between any of the variants
of *BSD, one is suddenly faced with slightly different ways of doing
things, different people to talk to, and different mailing lists to
track.  Installing binaries is the *easy* part of loading any new
system, it's learning to live with it afterwards and taking those
first cautious and uncertain steps (for almost any user) that takes
time.

It was my intention only to make plain the fact that the YP needs of
our users are NOT being ignored, and that we have every intention of
getting YP into FreeBSD as soon as it's reasonably possible.  There
are a lot of things to do, and I'm afraid that fixing bugs and
cleaning out old cruft has to take priority over adding new things
like YP.  This doesn't mean that it isn't a priority, just that there
have been other pressing matters to focus on before now.

   If this code is installed in a way that is even a touch different than
   the way it is installed in NetBSD, you'll be creating a binary
   compatibility problem. You'd better be damned sure you do it 100% the

We know.  A number of people have access to both systems and we're
well aware of the importance of binary compatability.

				Jordan
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(Jordan K. Hubbard)  jkh@violet.berkeley.edu, jkh@al.org, jkh@whisker.lotus.ie

I do not speak for Lotus, nor am I even a Lotus employee.  I am an independent
contractor.