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Xref: sserve comp.unix.bsd:12898 comp.os.386bsd.development:1400 comp.os.386bsd.bugs:1767 comp.os.386bsd.apps:640 comp.os.386bsd.questions:6681 comp.os.386bsd.misc:1438 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!agate.berkeley.edu!cgd From: cgd@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.os.386bsd.bugs,comp.os.386bsd.apps,comp.os.386bsd.questions,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Evidence to the moderators conflict-of-interest Followup-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc Date: 10 Nov 93 04:13:31 Organization: Kernel Hackers 'r' Us Lines: 127 Message-ID: <CGD.93Nov10041331@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU> References: <jmonroyCG9v5u.K7D@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: eden.cs.berkeley.edu In-reply-to: jmonroy@netcom.com's message of Wed, 10 Nov 1993 10:44:17 GMT [ sorry for the wide cross-posting; followups to c.o.3.misc -- cgd ] In article <jmonroyCG9v5u.K7D@netcom.com>, jmonroy@netcom.com (Inflatable Jesus) writes: = This be it a fact, = that you did receive article(s) from me, you must act duely = in a timely fashion. i must do *NO SUCH THING*. (although the duel thought is tempting. 8-) = Further, not responding and posting other = articles is in fact a misrepresentation that you are acting = responsibly and without conflict. BZZT, think again. how about "other articles received before yours?" "oh yeah". and also think about the fact that in order to post 'yours' i had to spend a good amount of time tracking the real versions down, etc. = When original responding you did not = say "ya or na"; you simple refused to answer. you never asked whether or not i was going to post yours. i responded as soon as i decided exactly what to do (and that *was* then). = Ignoring = articles after acknowledgement is a shunting of your = duties with a visible conflict-of-interest. no, it shows that i only have a limited amount of time to pursue these things; as noted, it took a fair amount of time to hunt down the most recent versions of the articles, add the headers, etc. = >> i decided that since the intent of your posting was to get the = >> FAQ on the newsgroup, i was going to: = >> (1) get the FAQ from the news archives = >> (2) repost it indicating: = >> (a) that it was a repost = >> (b) that you requested the repost, becaue there was = >> no version available on the newsgroups, and = >> because a version wasn't seen 'in the wings' = >> (c) the complete headers of the original articles = >> = You neither implied nor mentioned this in any previous = messages to me. that's because that's what i decided after i finished reading 'your' postings this afternoon. = >> the reasons for this: = >> (1) it give proper attribution for the original postings, = >> something which you failed to do = >> = Untrue. All articles were sent "as posted" to the "announce". = I neither modified nor did I claim responsiblity for the = articles. you didn't include the original 'From:' line; i consider that to be part of the attribution. as to whether or not you modified them, i don't know, and it would have taken longer to check than to get new versions. = The articles are "self attributed" by the authors. = I did not remove nor did I modify the original contents = of the articles. i didn't read the copies that you sent me. however, as i'm sure people would agree, your recent behaviour has shown that i cannot put much faith in anything that you do; you've a vested interest in trying to 'unseat' me, though i don't know what interest it is. = >> note the header on this message (and those of the rest of the mail = >> i've sent you). if you repost it, in whole or part without = >> prior explicit permission from me, i will take it up with your = >> sysadmins there at netcom. Note that this reply DOES NOT constitute = >> any sort of approval for reposting. = >> = I'm afraid it does my friend. Laws concerning the = recording of a two-way conversatin are already in place. *chuckle* well, that's the last piece of mail of *yours* that i ever reply to. = Since you did decide to answer and you did decide to repost the = FAQ for 386bsd yourself, you must now act in a timely fashion. = = Not acting in a timely fashion will plainly show your = conflict-of-interst here. Ignoring my mail will also show a = plain conflict-of-interst. It also shows that you are not = acting responsibly as moderator of "announce". = = Further, I should expect that you will make a statement about this = so you might consider putting a schedule to your action. = Not doing so will show a conflict-of-interst on your part. "hahahahahaha" jesus: some things which i advise you to consider: (1) repeated behaviour in this fashion constitutes harrassment in my book. i'm damned tempted to see if postmaster@netcom.com agrees with me. (2) it's quite obvious to me that you've no support in this matter; if you did, i'd *consider* resigning. as it is, you're just wasting my time. (3) you'll have a *very* hard time forcibly replacing me as moderator; it more or less just isn't done. I'd strongly suggest that you *DO NOT* approve postings to .announce yourself at any time in the future; that *will* get your account shut off after a warning or two, if your sysad is at all responsible. consider this a warning. (4) i will *NOT* use capital letters unless i damn well feel like it. (other readers: in private mail he made a sarcastic comment that indicated that he thought i should do so. 8-) buzz off, and grow up. cgd -- chris g. demetriou cgd@cs.berkeley.edu smarter than your average clam.