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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.misc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!tfs.com!zodiac.tfs.com!shipley From: shipley@oak.dis.org (Peter Shipley) Subject: Re: Status on discussed merge between NetBSD and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: cgd@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU's message of 14 Nov 93 08:56:27 Message-ID: <SHIPLEY.93Nov15185702@oak.dis.org> Sender: usenet@tfs.com Organization: Processed People for a Processed America References: <JKH.93Nov13222001.2@whisker.lotus.ie> <crt.753292942@tiamat.umd.umich.edu> <CGD.93Nov14085627@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 02:57:02 GMT Lines: 73 In article <CGD.93Nov14085627@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU> cgd@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) writes: >NNTP-Posting-Host: eden.cs.berkeley.edu > this is being posted for exactly one reason: "myth dispulsion." >I'm sick of seeing this rumor; it's simply *NOT TRUE*. doubts? ask >current-users@sun-lamp.cs.berkeley.edu, or post news asking the many >people who had 80+ and 100+ day uptimes under 0.8 and 0.9 to send >you some mail... > we've had perfectly working shared libs running for going > on 2 weeks; they still don't have it right. We have > shared XFree86. They have linker problems. > we can still reliably run on 4M machines; they can't -- > they claim it's a bug from Net/2, but i've done serious > development on 4M machines from 386BSD 0.0 day one (because > the original machine i had was a 386 with 4M RAM), and never > been bitten by it. > we have a real buffer cache, no longer done out of kernel > malloc memory. this leads to more speed, and greater > reliability (because there's less kernel map fragmentation). > we've fixed *so* many machine-dependencies and chunks of > bogus code it's unbelievable; many of those areas they've > not *touched*. > we've fixed *so* many bugs that they've not -- and that > they don't even know are there. we've found them > by stress-testing the hell out of NetBSD; they've > not even come close to doing that. Chris what is this, a game of "my os is better then yours na na na na!" we have been friends for a long time, even though I do not run in the same circles much anymore, I still concider you a close, trusted friend. (I hope you do not take this post personaly) thus I feel that I should point out that your post echos of a US .vs. THEM attitude; This is *BAD*; even if you do not feel this way, you are projecting this attitude to others. I am very suprized that you would allow yourself to loose sight of the big picture. neather of you had a better or worse OS; both trees need alot of work and you are not gonna get any done by flaming! (remember nomatter who you are there is *always* someone better) Now as for the big picture. I aggree that there should be a merger; I do not forese this anytime soon; but it would be nice for all developers and users and I do not think there is a person among us that would dissagree with that. (think of now nice it would have been it AT&T had worked with those doing BSD, think of how much work could have been saved? [but I degress]). Chris, Jordan (NetBSD, FreeBSD, Lynix people and followers) just stop for now, get back to your code and keep those patches flowing and source trees growing, any maybe some day you will merge. STOP PISSING on each other cause you are just pissing other off. -- --------------- Pete Shipley: email: shipley@berkeley.edu Flames: cimarron@postgres.berkeley.edu Spelling corections: /dev/null Quote: "Anger is an energy"