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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!haven.umd.edu!news.umbc.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!xlink.net!math.fu-berlin.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!wiserner From: wiserner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernd Wiserner) Subject: Re: SUMMARY: FreeBSD vs. Linux Sender: news@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (USENET Newssystem) Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 19:09:38 GMT Message-ID: <1993Nov16.190938.15622@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> Lines: 94 Well after reading this whole thread I remembered what happend som time ago. ( Jou shouldn't take it too serious :-) A friend of mine ( who used Linux ) called me and asked for help. He wanted to rebuld the whole system. ( I don't remember the reason. New compiler ? Libs ?...fix ? .. ) . Well I thought : Ok let's do it. I went to him in that evening and wanted to get back in about 2 hours. Ok we booted the system. cd to the source directory ; make all: Make : don't know how to make all. Hmm. ls -la : . .. Glug!. Didn't you install the complete stuf , I asked ? No. Ok let's get it from the floppies. Hmm . What is source , what is binary ? Never mind install everything !. tic tic tic ... Change floppy tic tic ... two hours later : cd to the source directory : make all: Make : don't know how to make all. Hmm. ls Makefile Hmm . ls : [lots of stuff ] Ok now let's build the whole bunch of things one by one. cd xx make all; make install. 45 Minutes later. Hmm is this all? du -s . [shows 5 Mb ] Wow , I thought, theese guys must be really effective. The whole source in 5 Mb . Hmm let's have a look ... [Almost everything is missing] Ok. Let's go for the rest. dialup -- .... ftp ..... sz/rz .... Ok another 4 Mb of stuff. Is this all ? Not by far. fileutils ? binutils ? stuff ? Ok dialup .... ftp bla.gnu.guru.bla .... get the whole stuff , compile each directory. compile xx : sucks. Hmm we need the linux version ... Hmm, where are the whole newfs/fsck ... again dialup .... look for the newest niftyest stuff. get ext2fs.0.2.3.5.56.87 ... unpack it , read the README : [stuff deleted] NOTE : This stuff is pre-[replace some greek letter here] . Do you want this stuff ? Or do you want to have something more stable ? hmm, let's ask archie : [bazillions of sites keeping ext2fs.0.x.x in bazillions of versions deleted] ? What to get ? Hmm. We got one , and it worked.Nice. Now go for the new libc. Hmm, something went wrong , everything coredumps ... 'Maybe we got the wrong jump-table' he said. I asked ' What the @#!& do you mean by jump-table ... [reading of tons of README's and manuals deleted] [20 cups of coffe later] building libc ...sucks. [reading of tons of README's and manuals deleted] We need the new [place your favoured shared-librarybuilding tool heer] archie ... get version 0.x.34 .... README : pre-alpha ... get version 0.x.32 ..... beta , but needs new kernel ... getting nervous .. get version -0.0 ... sucks. get version 0.2 WORKS ... Happyness everywhere ... building everything again ... fire up csh: csh: Command not found. tcsh: Command not found Ok go for it : archie : ... building libxxx . Again wrong jumptables ... ftp to hubba.dubba.official.linux.jumptable.ftpserver [Many other pathetic things deleted] At seven in the morning I went home. I dreamt of : cd /usr/src;make all install Ok I admit I am biased. Yes I am . And Ok I admit that you can do everything you want also with Linux. However I prefer to do : cd /usr/src;make all install and go to bed And I admit that I don't knew much about Linux at that time. Maybe I could just have done : ftp ftp.moon.mars.alien, get full-linux-src.tar.gz and rebuild everything, but I just didn't found such a site. (Please don't send me mail about such sites ) btw. My friend still uses Linux. He is happy with it. He just isn't rebuilding everything so often :-) Have a nice day.