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From: wiserner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bernd Wiserner)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: FreeBSD vs. Linux
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Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1993 19:09:38 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Nov16.190938.15622@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
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Well after reading this whole thread I remembered what happend som time ago.
( Jou shouldn't take it too serious :-)
A friend of mine ( who used Linux ) called me and asked for help.
He wanted to rebuld the whole system. ( I don't remember the reason. 
New compiler ? Libs ?...fix ? .. ) . Well I thought : Ok let's do it.
I went to him in that evening and wanted to get back in about 
2 hours. Ok we booted the system. cd to the source directory ; make all:
Make : don't know how to make all. Hmm. ls -la :
.
..
Glug!. Didn't you install the complete stuf , I asked ? No. 
Ok let's get it from the floppies. 
Hmm . What is source , what is binary ? Never mind install everything !.
tic tic tic ...
Change floppy 
tic tic ...
two hours later :
cd to the source directory : make all:
Make : don't know how to make all. Hmm. ls Makefile

Hmm . 
ls :
[lots of stuff ]
Ok now let's build the whole bunch of things one by one.
cd xx make all; make install.
45 Minutes later. Hmm is this all? 
du -s .
[shows 5 Mb ] 
Wow , I thought, theese guys must be really effective. The whole source 
in 5 Mb . 
Hmm let's have a look ... 
[Almost everything is missing]
Ok. Let's go for the rest.
dialup -- ....
ftp .....
sz/rz ....
Ok another 4 Mb of stuff. Is this all ? Not by far.
fileutils ? binutils ? stuff ?
Ok dialup .... ftp bla.gnu.guru.bla ....
get the whole stuff , compile each directory.
compile xx : sucks. Hmm we need the linux version ...
Hmm, where are the whole newfs/fsck ...
again dialup .... look for the newest niftyest stuff.
get ext2fs.0.2.3.5.56.87 ... unpack it , read the README :
[stuff deleted]
NOTE : This stuff is pre-[replace some greek letter here] . 
Do you want this stuff ? Or do you want to have something more stable ?
hmm, let's ask archie :
[bazillions of sites keeping ext2fs.0.x.x in bazillions of versions deleted]
? What to get ? Hmm. We got one , and it worked.Nice.
Now go for the new libc.
Hmm, something went wrong , everything coredumps ...
'Maybe we got the wrong jump-table' he said. 
I asked ' What the @#!& do you mean by jump-table ...
[reading of tons of README's and manuals deleted]
[20 cups of coffe later]
building libc ...sucks. 
[reading of tons of README's and manuals deleted]
We need the new [place your favoured shared-librarybuilding tool heer]
archie ... 
get version 0.x.34 .... README : pre-alpha ...
get version 0.x.32 ..... beta , but needs new kernel ...
getting nervous ..
get version -0.0 ... sucks.
get version 0.2 WORKS ... Happyness everywhere ...
building everything again ...
fire up csh:
csh: Command not found.
tcsh: Command not found
Ok go for it :
archie :
...
building libxxx . Again wrong jumptables ... ftp to
hubba.dubba.official.linux.jumptable.ftpserver

[Many other pathetic things deleted]
At seven in the morning I went home. I dreamt of :
cd /usr/src;make all install


Ok I admit I am biased. Yes I am .
And Ok I admit that you can do everything you want also with Linux.
However I prefer to do : cd /usr/src;make all install and go to bed 
And I admit that I don't knew much about Linux at that time.
Maybe I could just have done : 
ftp ftp.moon.mars.alien, get full-linux-src.tar.gz and rebuild 
everything, but I just didn't found such a site.
(Please don't send me mail about such sites )

btw. My friend still uses Linux. He is happy with it. He just isn't rebuilding
everything so often :-)

Have a nice day.