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Xref: sserve comp.protocols.ibm:3448 comp.unix.bsd:12994 comp.os.386bsd.development:1531 comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc:20967 Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ibm,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!umn.edu!uum1!fs!cardinal!mustard.fs.com!peterson From: peterson@mustard.fs.com (Steve Peterson) Subject: Re: [NETBIOS] Anyone with NetBIOS Unix code? Or SMB? Sender: news@cardinal.fs.com (Account for USENET News system) Message-ID: <CH8EnE.GxJ@cardinal.fs.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 02:23:37 GMT References: <CH7yJy.BHA@Colorado.EDU> Nntp-Posting-Host: mustard.fs.com Organization: Fourth Shift Corporation X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Followup-To: comp.protocols.ibm,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Lines: 40 Todd C. Miller (millert@Colorado.EDU) wrote: : From the keyboard of hamish@thebes.cc.waikato.ac.nz (Hamish Marson): : > A Wizard of Earth C (terry@cs.weber.edu) wrote: : > > In article <2d1vuh$4am@jake.micromuse.co.uk> peter@micromuse.co.uk writes: : > > >I thought much of IPX/SPX whatever are documented in various texts. If : > > >someone implements it "clean-room" style then no license ? Like I know : > > >DEC have some sort of patent on part of LAT or something. Is there : > > >something similar in the Novell protocol stack ? : > : > > I am pretty sure a spec has never been published; I don't know its : > > status. Sorry. : > : > : > IPX/SPX are public knowledge, and are published widely in many places, : > available from novell and others. Its very similar to Xerox XNS. (Its : > actually based on it). : > : > NCP on the other hand (Netware Core Protocol) is the protocols that : > netware server/clients use to actually send and recieve commands to : > reach oither. Mostly IPX is used as a transport medium, but IP is now : > available as well. NCP is very secret and hush hush, although you can : > licence the specs from novell (very expensive), or do a clean room and : > develope your own (Not too easy, but I think it could be done in a few : > weeks with a network sniffer and a little time with the novell sold : > toolkits). : Dr Dobbs Journal's (Nov 1993) Undocumented Corner conatins info on NCP : and lists other sources plus hints on gathering more info yourself. : I only scanned the article, but it seems like a good place to start. : - todd : -- : Todd C. Miller millert@Colorado.EDU I thought I saw that Beame & Whiteside just announced a Novell server clone. -- Steve Peterson +1 612 851 1523 peterson@fs.com