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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!uunet!caen!umeecs!dip.eecs.umich.edu!dmuntz From: dmuntz@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Daniel A Muntz) Subject: Re: AT&T sues BSDI Message-ID: <1992Jul25.212616.18351@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Keywords: BSDI AT&T Sender: news@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Mr. News) Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor References: <83@ampr.ab.ca> <1992Jul23.173415.11587@nebulus.ca> <1992Jul25.014246.11533@klic.rain.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:26:16 GMT Lines: 50 In article <1992Jul25.014246.11533@klic.rain.com> keithl@klic.rain.com (Keith Lofstrom) writes: >dennis@nebulus.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge) [ and others ] write: > >>Send your $1000.00 to BSDI and get a source license now. > >I just did so. There are a number of reasons why this is a good idea: > good idea? 1) Now you're tainted by having seen BSDI code. Obviously there's one shining example of someone who's seen BSDI code and "contributed" to 386bsd, but what will BSDI's reaction be to BSDI owners who contribute code to 386bsd in the future? Perhaps an official response would be useful for people considering purchasing BSDI code. To avoid a vague response I'll suggest some scenerios below. 2) Anyone who recommends a BSDI purchase to their employer at this point is an idiot *unless* said employer is into pirating software or is more interested in making a donation to BSDI than receiving a product they can use (i.e. BSDI loses and your software becomes illegal). I'd like to know what BSDI's reaction to the following cases would be. They are purely fictional as I have seen no BSDI code. a) I notice that /usr/sys/kern/foo.c is nearly identical in BSDI and 386bsd except the BSDI version has some bug fixes (ptr+1 instead of ptr, etc.). I post a diff of the two foo.c's. Am I in trouble? b) I notice BSDI uses buffering in wt.c to improve tape performance. I write buffering code for wt.c in 386bsd (which I argue would have occurred to me independently...). There are some coincidental similarities in the buffering code. c) Some code I post is similar to some BSDI code that I've never seen. Perhaps the BSDIers and I read the same article on hyperwidget-trees at some point in the past. d) (Remember, this is fiction) Bill Jolitz decides to market 386bsd as a commercial product by distributing source and binaries free, but selling support. The company is successful. Keep in mind that even if BSDI's reactions to these situations would be positive (from my perspective; as I suspect they would be at the moment), who knows what would happen if BSDI became more successful and the human to lawyer ratio began to drop. -Dan