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From: dmuntz@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Daniel A Muntz)
Subject: Re: AT&T sues BSDI
Message-ID: <1992Jul25.212616.18351@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
Keywords: BSDI AT&T
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References: <83@ampr.ab.ca> <1992Jul23.173415.11587@nebulus.ca> <1992Jul25.014246.11533@klic.rain.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:26:16 GMT
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In article <1992Jul25.014246.11533@klic.rain.com> keithl@klic.rain.com (Keith Lofstrom) writes:
>dennis@nebulus.ca (Dennis S. Breckenridge)  [ and others ] write:
>
>>Send your $1000.00 to BSDI and get a source license now.
>
>I just did so.  There are a number of reasons why this is a good idea:
>

good idea?

1) Now you're tainted by having seen BSDI code.  Obviously there's one shining
   example of someone who's seen BSDI code and "contributed" to 386bsd, but
   what will BSDI's reaction be to BSDI owners who contribute code to 
   386bsd in the future?  Perhaps an official response would be useful for
   people considering purchasing BSDI code.  To avoid a vague response
   I'll suggest some scenerios below.

2) Anyone who recommends a BSDI purchase to their employer at this point is
   an idiot *unless* said employer is into pirating software or is more
   interested in making a donation to BSDI than receiving a product they can
   use (i.e. BSDI loses and your software becomes illegal).
  

I'd like to know what BSDI's reaction to the following cases would be.
They are purely fictional as I have seen no BSDI code.

 a) I notice that /usr/sys/kern/foo.c is nearly identical in BSDI and 386bsd
    except the BSDI version has some bug fixes (ptr+1 instead of ptr, etc.).
    I post a diff of the two foo.c's.  Am I in trouble?

 b) I notice BSDI uses buffering in wt.c to improve tape performance.  I write
    buffering code for wt.c in 386bsd (which I argue would have occurred to
    me independently...).  There are some coincidental similarities in the
    buffering code.

 c) Some code I post is similar to some BSDI code that I've never seen.
    Perhaps the BSDIers and I read the same article on hyperwidget-trees at
    some point in the past.

 d) (Remember, this is fiction) Bill Jolitz decides to market 386bsd
    as a commercial product by distributing source and binaries
    free, but selling support.  The company is successful.

Keep in mind that even if BSDI's reactions to these situations would be
positive (from my perspective; as I suspect they would be at the moment),
who knows what would happen if BSDI became more successful and the
human to lawyer ratio began to drop.

  -Dan