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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.development Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!jmonroy From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 1.0R] DMA Problems? Message-ID: <jmonroyCI82o0.6Jt@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] References: <2eta3j$6t9@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 08:38:23 GMT Lines: 58 Rafal Boni (rkb55989@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) writes: : >Rafal Boni (rkb55989@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote: : >: j@uriah.sax.de (J Wunsch) writes: : >: [stuff J"org and Terry were debating deleted...] : >: >In fact, i'm also experiencing lotta DMA overruns when attempting to do : >: >some floppy IO while some heavy compile job is running. This is in a box : >: >with an Adaptec SCSI, and i didn't track it down whether it's the CPU : >: >load that causes the trouble (would really look strange to me), or if : >: >it's the heavy disk IO that happens while compiling. : >: I would be tempted to say that the Adaptec is at fault... I have a : >: 3Com 3c507 Ethernet card in my machine, and the docs SPECIFICALLY : >: mention the fact that Adaptec's 154x may cause problems for the : >: Ethernet card's DMA reads/writes.... Later 3Com updated some of : >: the [I would guess] DMA related circuitry to be able to handle longer : >: timeouts or something of that nature... : >: : > Most problems encountered with Adaptec's 154X and ethernet : > cards are I/O port, IRQ and DMA channel conflicts. : > Both 3Com cards and Adaptec's card are configurable to many : > setting. Getting them to conflict is very easy. I would : > not be so quick to blame the AHA card. : FTP to ftp.3com.com and you too can read 3Com's tech notes on the : subject... While it may not be 100% Adaptec's fault [in this case, : 3Com relaxed their own timing reqirements to allow both of the : cards to work], it definitely is something that was caused by the : Adaptec's holding on to the bus for too long... : While I heard your reasoning before from other people, I might believe it's true if I had some real information. I spent about 2 minutes on the ftp.3com.com when I realized that my search was real silly. In the past when a technical question came about I was willing to state evidence with references. Namely, I give names, dates, publishers, etc. If your claim is correct, and I am not saying it is not, then please site a reference with the exact name and numbers as they apply. "Looking in the dictionary for mispelled words is not my idea" of a valid search either. -- Jesus Monroy Jr jmonroy@netcom.com Zebra Research /386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation ___________________________________________________________________________