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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.development Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!paladin.american.edu!gatech!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!jmonroy From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 1.0R] DMA Problems? Message-ID: <jmonroyCIJFAr.Atn@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <CHCErs.G5w@genesis.nred.ma.us> <2dj25i$1ga@u.cc.utah.edu> <2encotINN3sq@bonnie.sax.de> <2eqjt7$dqm@u.cc.utah.edu> <CI6291.HBA@genesis.nred.ma.us> <2fbvtoINNk71@bonnie.sax.de> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 11:44:50 GMT Lines: 102 J Wunsch (j@uriah.sax.de) wrote: : steve2@genesis.nred.ma.us writes: : >I originally asked the question so hopefully I can clarify things a bit. : >>... BECAUSE the floppy does : >>*not* _ALSO_ use DMA, ... : [This statement is totally WRONG. It's just the opposite: only the floppy : uses DMA by default. The dRAM refresh in an AT is no more done by a DMA : channel, and the typical AT hard disk uses programmed IO by the CPU. The : only one else using DMA (as bus-mastered DMA) are SCSI host adaptors.] : Beeeep.... Sorry Doctor Bob, contestant #1 has scored an an incorrect point....... (so much for a try at humor) :-} Seriously, the quesiton about DMA RAM refresh has an answer. This was posted many moons ago as described below. ====================================================================== Released to: comp.os.os2.programmer.misc comp.os.linux.development comp.os.minix comp.periphs comp.unix.bsd comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware comp.os.386bsd.development Released as: Test of the Intel 8254 shut-down/parity-check command Released :00:07:44 Wed 09-15-1993 Note: only 386bsd got the shell archive This is a condensed version of the posting. To get the rest, subscribe to comp.os.386bsd.development _or_ wait till shell archive is available via anonymouse ftp at etext.archive.umich.edu : /pub/Zines/QIC-News ======================================================================== Test of the Intel 8254 shut-down/parity-check command ----------------------------------------------------- version: 1.0.0 date: 09-14-1993 author: jmonroy@netcom.com Purpose: Test the for parity errors by shutting down the RAM refresh timer. While looking for the reason for DMA overruns in the development of an FDC driver for 386bsd, suggestions were made that shutting down the timer has no effect on the system; reasons for this varied. Compiling: I have made the code transportable. It has been tested with: MSDOS ----- Zortech Personal C v. 1.07 Turbo C v. 2.01 Microsoft Quick C v. 2.50 386BSD ------ GNU C++ v. 1.39 How this works. --------------- Simply the program issue a command to change to mode 4 (described in the notes) with a "count-down" value of 0x0a0a (2,570). This is done to timers 1 and 2, the RAM refresh timer and the speaker timer, respectively. Timer 0 is left running because most OSes cannot operate without a timer for the "deadloop". What should happen. ------------------- On most 286 systems nothing will happen till a interrupt is generated (I.E., keyboard pressed) or a RAM chip finally loses it's charge. At this point, some system will hang for a long while, some will immediately parity error. On 386bsd expect a "csh" coredump followed by a system panic. The system will then reboot. On some systems a parity error will never register. What does this prove? --------------------- Namely that the RAM refresh is controllable via the i8254 timer on the IBM/ISA architecture. -- Jesus Monroy Jr jmonroy@netcom.com Zebra Research /386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation ___________________________________________________________________________