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Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.development Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!caen!usenet.coe.montana.edu!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!jmonroy From: jmonroy@netcom.com (Jesus Monroy Jr) Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 1.0R] DMA Problems? Message-ID: <jmonroyCJ5JwH.EzE@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <CHCErs.G5w@genesis.nred.ma.us> <2dj25i$1ga@u.cc.utah.edu> <2encotINN3sq@bonnie.sax.de> <CIDrrv.3MJ@sneaky.lonestar.org> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 10:31:29 GMT Lines: 42 Posted as a curtiousy(sp?) to David. ========================================================================= Subject: Re: [FreeBSD 1.0R] DMA Problems? From: David Greenman <davidg@implode.rain.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 94 05:34:25 -0800 >I'm sorry for this reply... but > >Sagitarius (sp?) won't align with the moon for at least >four days.... Can I give you an answer then? > >What is this "cosmic ray" stuff? >Somebody please tell me if I should take this seriously? You most certainly should; John knows what he's talking about. It's interesting about the cosmic ray stuff - cosmic rays are a major source of alpha particles. In the early days of DRAM designs, alpha particles were the primary failure mode for DRAM - they were such a problem that nobody would seriously consider a DRAM design that didn't implement ECC. The 256k DRAMs were where the problem really became serious - some engineers were sure that smaller micron technologies would be impossible because of the alpha particle problems. ...But then there was improved die 'coating' materials that dramtically reduced the problem. Cosmic rays aren't the only cause of alpha particles, in fact I think that the plastic package that contains the die is actually a greater source of them then cosmic rays (but I'm fuzzy on this). Please post this to the net - I can't post at the moment. -DG David Greenman FreeBSD development team -- Jesus Monroy Jr jmonroy@netcom.com Zebra Research /386BSD/device-drivers /fd /qic /clock /documentation ___________________________________________________________________________