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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!uunet!olivea!news.bbn.com!drilex!dricejb From: dricejb@drilex.dri.mgh.com (Craig Jackson drilex1) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: AT&T or USL, and extrapolation Message-ID: <51670@drilex.dri.mgh.com> Date: 27 Jul 92 14:47:35 GMT References: <1992Jul23.064028@eklektix.com> <1830@adagio.UUCP> <1992Jul25.164257.5424@nebulus.ca> Organization: DRI/McGraw-Hill, Lexington, MA Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com Thank you for posting the entire complaint. Upon reading, several things struck me: 1. I saw no mention of "trade secret" or similar words. USL/AT&T simply alleges that the NET2 code is derived from USL/AT&T code. 2. USL/AT&T seems to make a distinction that BSDI is marketing an operating system based on the NET2 code, rather than a fragment of one. This may be related to the fact that "Unix" is a trademark of a particular brand of operating system. (I heard a rule years ago: "Trademarks are adjectives, not nouns.") This might be an attempt to draw a distinction between the effort of BSDI and the NET2 distribution sitting on UUNET, which is not a complete operating system. However, this doesn't make sense. Either there is a license violation, or there isn't, it would seem to me. Revealing a portion of a trade secret is just as bad as revealing the whole secret. 3. An interesting point is that AT&T/USL seems to allege that the term "BSD" has become linked with the AT&T/USL trademark "Unix", since all past BSD releases required an AT&T license. This would seem to lay groundwork for a trademark-confusion suit based solely on the use of the term "BSD". Obviously, the crux of this suit is whether the NET2 distribution requires an USL/AT&T license. All of the other stuff about 800-ITS-UNIX, etc. are simply sloppy business practices on the part of BSDI. I think that the origins of this suit go back several years to when AT&T shut down the office they once had which would examine a piece of code to see if it contained AT&T proprietary code. At that time, they decided to not give away their rights to anything, but rather to let the courts decide. I still don't understand exactly why the Regents of the University of California were not a party to the suit. It would seem that one option BSDI would have, should it lose, would be to sue the Regents for false statements about the origin of the code. -- Craig Jackson dricejb@drilex.dri.mgh.com {bbn,alliant,redsox,atexnet,ka3ovk}!drilex!{dricej,dricejb}