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From: pitts@mimosa.astro.indiana.edu (Jim Pitts)
Subject: Re: tape drive drivers
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:27:16 GMT
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In article <jmonroyCK4u8n.479@netcom.com>,
Jesus Monroy Jr <jmonroy@netcom.com> wrote:
>Jim Pitts (pitts@mimosa.astro.indiana.edu) wrote:
>: In article <jmonroyCJyrE3.FMo@netcom.com>,
>: Jesus Monroy Jr <jmonroy@netcom.com> wrote:
>: >Jim Pitts (pitts@mimosa.astro.indiana.edu) wrote:
>: >: In article <jmonroyCJrt28.L5B@netcom.com>,
>: >: Jesus Monroy Jr <jmonroy@netcom.com> wrote:
>: >: >Marc WANDSCHNEIDER (storm@cs.mcgill.ca) wrote:
>: >: >
>: >: >
>: >
>: >: Just grabbed it this morning.  I don't think you made a liar out of the original
>: >: poster at all.  Looking at the distribution we have a Steve Gerakines to thank
>: >: (unless this is Mr. Monroy's pen name).  I did not see you name anywhere on the
>: >: software.  In fact Steve not only has the sole copyright but also is kind 
>: >: enough to have all problems/questions directed to -his- E-mail address.  It 
>: >: doesn't look like Jesus will even be offering support for the driver.   :)
>: >:
>: >	Early on Steve wrote to me asked me about my driver,
>: >	he replied that he could no wait for my development.
>: >	I understand his delema (sp?) this being one reason
>: >	for QIC NEWS and NOTES (not eade yet).
>
>: What 'delema' are you speaing of.  It looked like he wrote a driver and 
>: released it.  
>:
>	Yes, Steve released a driver.
>
>: I don't see what the connection is between Steve's driver and your driver.
>: Are the two connected somehow?  Steve did not think enough of your influence
>: on his project to even include your name -anywhere- in the code.
>:
>	I did not influence Steve or his driver in the slightest.
>	There is no connection between my driver and Steve's,
>	except that they are both QIC-40/80...
>	

Except perhaps for the fact this his exists.

I -am- glad you finally admitted this.  It shows you have some grasp on reality.

>	You are starting a mute point.
>

You started the mute point when you tried to make the absurd claim several
posts ago that you had something to do with Steve's QIC driver.  I am just
trying to set the record straight.

>: It looks like you had about >< this much of an impact on his work.
>:
>	Your perception is quite good.
>
>: >
>: >	However, to state a position one way or another on
>: >	an unseem piece of software would be fool hardy.
>: >	Additionally with persons such as Dave Burgess involved
>: >	with the project I am sure it will be a fine effort.
>
>: Totally unimportant to this issue.  The original poster had a valid point.  He
>: was sick to death of you foaming at the mouth about your stupid 'unseem piece 
>: of software' and wanted to know if anyone else had been working on it for real.
>:
>	Fine.... if you would like to read this interpetation
>	into a question which says:
>	
>		Hey has anybody seem the tape driver that jm 
>		promised, but can't seem to deliver?
>	
>	Fine... I won't argue with you.

I guess it should come as no suprise that you have totally missed the issue
here as well.  -Perhaps- the statement that this is all about is one -you-
made in response to the question above which read:

		perhaps I should make a liar out of you

Followed by news of Steve's driver (which you admit you had nothing to do
with). 

The original posters message left little room for interpetation.  It was clear,
concise, and a -very- valid question.  Your response was not only vague, but
even implied that you had something to do with the development with the
QIC driver just released.

Then again I gather from the low opinion everyone seems to have of your posts 
that you seldom read what you write in the first place.  It is a habit you might
want to pick up.

>	
>: -Your- answer was 'Perhaps I should make a liar out of you.'  -The- answer was
>: 'yes' someone else did do it and here is where it is.
>:
>	The answer was what I gave.

-NO- it wasn't.  The answer was 'yes, someone else -has- been working on
a driver.  His name is Steve and here is and where it can be found.'  That is
the reality of the situation.

The fantasy is your response 'perhaps I should make a liar out of you'.  You
tell me how news of Steve's driver makes a liar out of the original poster.

>
>:	:: [non-issue] ::  
>
>: If you did I would be intrested to hear -this- story.
>:
>	Fine email me.. I'll put you on the mailing list.

-Please- don't do this.  I am not much into fantasy literature.

>
>: No one ever said a QIC driver would never be released ... they just said that
>: -your- QIC driver would never be released.  Based on simple emperical 
>: observation I am happy Steve put out what he did.
>:	
>	I am as happy as you that Steve put out the driver...
>
>	Please make a technical point next time... 
>

I would be glad to, but this is not a technical issue.

>	Because I am really getting tired of people
>	wasting my time... with trivia... 
>

I get tired of the same thing, like your promises of the QIC driver.  Deliver
it or dry up and blow away.

>	
>
>: I will.  The sun is finally warming the air, I have a QIC driver now, and I am 
>: going to give you an honored place in my kill file today.  What could be better?
>:
>	promises, promises.....
>

-Man- that one is hard to pass up, but it is just tooooo easy...

The only reason I did -not- put your name in my kill file was because several
people sent me e-mail asking to keep up with you and your stupid posts.  They
were concerned that the record be straight on the QIC driver and who is
responsible for it.

I think this is the end of this thread.  You have admitted you had -nothing-
to do with the QIC driver Steve wrote.  That's good enough for me.  I can
always throw up your post if this issue comes up again.

I will not post again on this topic.  For the benifit of the rest of readers
of this news group I ask that you do the same.


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