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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!caen!hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!gateway.univel.com!gateway.novell.com!thisbe!terry From: terry@thisbe.npd.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Re: I wonder, did AT&T backstab BSDI? Keywords: AT&T speculation lawsuit BSDI Message-ID: <1992Jul29.174437.18606@gateway.novell.com> Date: 29 Jul 92 17:44:37 GMT Article-I.D.: gateway.1992Jul29.174437.18606 References: <1992Jul28.153750.8395@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <1992Jul29.144859.8222@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> Sender: terry@thisbe (Terry Lambert) Organization: Novell NPD -- Sandy, UT Lines: 40 Nntp-Posting-Host: thisbe.eng.sandy.novell.com In article <1992Jul29.144859.8222@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>, ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stephen R Usher) writes: |> In article <1992Jul28.153750.8395@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> knight@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Knight of the Living Dead) writes: |> > |> >As I recall when System 5 Revision 4.0 was released, it was described |> >(to me, anyway) as an attempt to gain "BSD Compatibility". I'm wondering |> >if the reason why AT&T held out sueing BSDI this long is so they could |> >claim copyright of BSD's code/style/look/feel/etc while it was still |> >popular, and then smash all the competition. |> |> The only problem with this idea is that SYSVr4 (NOT System 5, that was |> another Unix way back) doesn't look like BSD, it still looks like SYSV to |> the normal user, ie you have horrid syntax for the ps utility where you need |> to use a hyphen in front of the arguments and the devices... yuck! |> |> The only real thing I've seen which is BSD is the socket library (not |> complete) and the BSD compatibility library which is not complete either. Things AT&T owes to Berkeley: 1) UFS 2) VFS 3) Memory management strategies 4) Job control 5) csh 6) TCP/IP 7) telnet/ftp/finger/et al. 8) mail/sendmail/smtp 9) termcap 10) pty's The top 10 list, to name a few. Terry Lambert terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com terry@icarus.weber.edu --- Disclaimer: Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.