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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!constellation!news.uoknor.edu!ns1.nodak.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!news.uoregon.edu!cs.uoregon.edu!sgiblab!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!netcomsv!netcom.com!hasty From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) Subject: Re: NetBSD FreeBSD LINUX and BSDI Unixes Message-ID: <hastyCL068H.HwC@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <76.9.490.0N965E1E@teaminfinity.com> <2jbc84$1j1@hopscotch.ksr.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 09:55:29 GMT Lines: 88 In article <2jbc84$1j1@hopscotch.ksr.com> jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods) writes: >aradhika.webber@teaminfinity.com (Sysop) writes: >>What is the difference between, NETBSD, FeeBSD BSDI and Linux. >> Which ones will do TCP/IP, Telnet, FTP, SNMP, PPP, UUCP out of the box ? > >With the exception of SNMP, NetBSD certainly covers all of these as shipped, >as do FreeBSD and BSD/386 (which may, for all I know, also have an SNMP >agent shipped with it); I believe public-domain SNMP agents are available, >and should run on them. Linux presumably can make the same claim, but I've >heard numerous complaints about the quality of their TCP/IP implementation >(no IP fragmentation/reassembly, for example). Well you can build isode-8.0's snmpV2 agent with minimal effort. At long with Marshall's snmp package (isode), you get tcl/tck with makes the job of writing snmp applications fairly easy. If you can master configuring Marshall's undocumented party database you are in for a treat. Also, included in the package is an snmp test suite (naturally using tcl/tk). BTW: his funky gawk is no longer recommended by Marshall. There also tcl_nm-1.03 (snmpv1) -- another tcl snmp interface which I have used extensively for about a year now. The cmu snmpv2 code should port also easily althought I have not tried out the agent. The cmu package also has tcl snmp interface mostly based on tcl_nm-1.03 >>Which one is overall the best for setting up an Internet site with ? > >I shouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole, but: if "best" means you won't >have to spend much time and thought on it, and will get guaranteed hand-holding >by genuine experts and reasonably prompt positive responses to bug reports, >and if you have the cash for it, go with BSD/386. If "best" involves Not sure how many people are "professionally" supporting BSDI (one or two) so you can imagine their bandwith being eaten up quite quickly. >not paying much for it, then you'll probably have to try out all three of >the other operating systems (unless you don't have a 386, in which case >NetBSD is your only choice). Well, netbsd-0.9 as shipped is not too reliable you will probably want to upgrade to netbsd-current. So as ship between FreeBSD and NetBSD I would choose FreeBSD. I have run both FreeBSD, NetBSD and NetBSD-current as of mid-december. >>Which ones can be obtained already on media, for how much and from whom? > >BSD/386 obviously comes on purchasable media (info@bsdi.com); Linux and >FreeBSD both have CD-ROMs available, and probably floppy distributions as You can buy FreeBSD 1.0 CDROM from Walnut Creek CDROM, 1-510-674-0783. The sources/binaries ... are available at freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD >well; I do not know whether NetBSD is available on media, but wouldn't be >at all surprised. You can ask about distributions in comp.os.linux.help >and comp.os.386bsd.misc. > Minor honorable mention is that I don't think that BSDI has support for shared libraries. Whereas, NetBSD-current and FreeBSD-current have had shared libraries for a few months now (an eternity in our time scale) If you want to have fun with your computer you can use the linux sound driver, which supports SB16, SBPRO, PAS16 and Gravis Ultrasound, on either FreeBSD and of course linux. you can play mod, midi, or sun style au files. As far as I know BSDI only provides the contributed SBPRO driver which sounds inferior to the linux sound driver with a Gravis Ultrasound Sound card. At work where I don't hack on the system so much, I just used it, my FreeBSD system stays up for weeks. From my Pentium 66Mhz running FreeBSD via slip to this host, good nite Amancio -- FREE unix, gcc, tcp/ip, X, open-look, interviews, tcl/tk, MIME, midi, sound at freebsd.cdrom.com:/pub/FreeBSD Amancio Hasty, Consultant | Home: (415) 495-3046 | e-mail hasty@netcom.com | ftp-site depository of all my work: ahasty@cisco.com | sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/X