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Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!news.Hawaii.Edu!ames!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!news.Cerritos.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!math.arizona.edu!CS.Arizona.EDU!organpipe.uug.arizona.edu!afthree.as.arizona.edu!tom From: tom@afthree.as.arizona.edu (Thomas J. Trebisky) Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.questions Subject: A collection of new install questions Date: 18 Feb 1994 21:58:02 GMT Organization: Steward Observatory, Univ. of Arizona, Tucson Lines: 60 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2k3dla$od4@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: afthree.as.arizona.edu Well, it finally happened -- a fellow wanted to talk me into doing some work for him, and part of the deal is that I get (I got!) a 486 cpu board and I can dump my old 286 -- well, I went out and bought a shiny new 202M IDE drive (Western Digital AC1210), so last night I bolted all this together, and took home with me the first 3 install floppies with NetBSD. First success is that this machine (Cyrix 486/40 Opti), does boot the NetBSD-0.9 floppy just fine, with 4M ram and 128k external cache, cool so far. First question: where does one get the pfdisk program?? I managed to use fdisk and Norton Disk Editor to I think get this right, but pfdisk sounds like a nicer and more sure-fire way to go. I get stuck tho just at the point in the install procedure after I copy the kernel to wd0a and go to reboot the machine from the HD for the first time. I suspect this is the disk geometry remapping business the FAQ talks about. I just got off the phone with Western Digital Tech support, they tell me that the *real* drive geometry is 1971 cyl, 4 heads, and variable sectors/track (from 48-56). They did make statements to the effect that no-one should need to know this to make the drive work with *any* operating system, but I take that with a grain of salt. Second question: how do I deal with this variable sectors/track?? From what I understand, this kind of thing is fairly common in the IDE drive world. Has anyone managed to get DOS and NetBSD to live happily together using this drive. If no-one jumps back at me with an answer, I will probably just try 48spt and see what happens, even tho that will be giving up almost 20M of capacity. Just a short diversion to stave off the cries of "Just dump DOS". That would suit me fine, but the project I am taking on that is paying for this new machine is a DOS software development job, so I just cannot do that -- and sometimes other family members like to play games -- not me, OS hacking is all the entertainment I need. Third question: right now, the machine always wants to boot NetBSD even tho I have rerun fdisk and marked the first partition (with DOS) as the active partition. So, I can boot DOS from floppy and switch to the C: drive for now, but ultimately one of these boot managers will help me switch from the DOS sweatshop to the pleasant land of unix fun and games and back again. I have seen OS-BS mentioned in this context. How and where do I get this or something like it?? PPS: I have been hacking away cross-compiling NetBSD sources for some time working on a 680x0 port, this will actually be my first experience seeing it run, I am eager with anticipation. PPPS: I anticipate wanting to run NetBSD-current, is it foolish for me to install 0.9 first and move to current from there? Of course running current could wreak havoc on my DOS work, but if I am not mistaken that will buy me the handy mountable dosfs that I cannot get with 0.9, among other things???? -- Tom Trebisky ttrebisky@as.arizona.edu I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something. --R. P. Feynman