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From: mycroft@duality.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.386bsd.development
Subject: Re: Could the BSD 4.4 Lite be a new beginning?
Date: 19 Feb 1994 18:22:23 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
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In-reply-to: John Dyson's message of Fri, 18 Feb 94 20:21:59 -0500


Congrats, John!  You've just won the first Rob Kolstad (Used Kernel
Salesman) award!


In article <hq5JeSv.dysonj@delphi.com> John Dyson <dysonj@delphi.com>
writes:

   The new pmap code is *significantly* improved over the *old* pmap
   code which is essentially what NetBSD is using ( some uninspired
   tweaks.)

That is fallacious.  Had you looked, you'd find that many of the
changes in `your' pmap module are identical to ones I did in `ours'
(with the exception of the bit of assembler code).  I actually
compared the code out of curiosity.  The ones that weren't are mostly
irrelevant.

   (BTW, pmap is a *small* *small* part of the performance puzzle.)

No joke.  I wonder why you even brought it up.

   [...] and produced the *most* robust driver for ethernet cardS that
   I have ever heard of.  It is great because it *really* works for so
   many card types.

You sound like a used car salesman.  I've seen plenty of such drivers
equally as reliable, and even more so because they don't rely on a
buggy chip.  I also compared `his' NE[12]000 code and found most of it
textually identical to the code I sent him (which was based on, but
not the code from the original if_ne driver).

   Remember, FreeBSD is being used in *real* work and my A** is really
   on the line.  IT WILL/DOES WORK!!!!

And so is/does NetBSD.  I've talked with people who use it for a wide
variety of `real' work.

--
- Charles Hannum
  NetBSD group
  Working ports: i386, hp300, amiga, sparc, mac68k, pc532.
  In progress: pmax, sun3.