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Xref: sserve comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video:4161 comp.windows.x.i386unix:7507 comp.os.386bsd.misc:1981 Path: sserve!newshost.anu.edu.au!munnari.oz.au!bruce.cs.monash.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!not-for-mail From: ggm@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au (George Michaelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.os.386bsd.misc Subject: Re: Video output Date: 25 Feb 1994 09:27:43 +1000 Organization: University of Queensland Lines: 48 Message-ID: <2kjd5f$g32@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> References: <CLq9pt.Mps@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dingo.cc.uq.oz.au X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #2 (NOV) richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) writes: >I'm looking for some hardware that will allow me to record the display >on a PC onto videotape (VHS/PAL). I will be running XFree under >NetBSD. >What are the options for doing this? Will I have to reduce the PC >display resolution to that of the video? I'm willing to get either an >external adaptor or a replacement video card, so long as it works >under X. Forgive me if this is wrong... Its my understanding... You need either a card with an explicit video output akin to the (very expensive!) Galileo board on the SGI, or a generic sync rate converter, which is a black box that plugs into the monitor flyleads and performs the decimation/rate conversion and provides flyleads for input to suitable recording/mixing media. (SVHS plug, BNC RGB+sync, whatever) VHS recorded tape and broadcast TV is around 15Khz. horizontal sync. VGA is 35Khz, SVGA/Sun/Dec/Etc is 60, 65, 72, 100+ Khz. You can't get from this to 15Khz without loosing information. Typically you either select a zone of the screen for full pixel recording at the appropriate width x height 1:1 or else do some kind of decimation. a 1024x768 window cut down to the VHS is going to look ok, but definately not PIXAR quality. It beats the hell out of pointing a camera at the screen mind you... A sync rate converter for VGA->VHS is around $10k Australian. If you want from 72+Khz its more like $40k Australian. I suspect a video toaster card will be cheaper but quality will be an issue, as well as getting a NetBSD driver. You can probably hire a sync rate converter from a mob doing TV O/B production work, but you definately need to know the horizontal refresh rate of the local monitor, and pinouts of the connectors. You can often use Thinwire and T-pieces but remember Thinwire is 50 Ohm and TV is 75 Ohm so you loose if the runs are too long. Why not persuade SGI to loan you an Iris with Galileo, and use remote X to get the NetBSD box to display onto the Iris which can then drive the tapedeck directly? It'll only cost around $150k to buy the setup :-) -George -- George Michaelson G.Michaelson@cc.uq.oz.au The Prentice Centre | There's no market for University of Queensland | hippos in Philadelphia Phone: +61 7 365 4079 QLD Australia 4072 | -Bertold Brecht