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From: John Dyson <dysonj@delphi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: BSD vs. Linux
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 94 20:10:30 -0500
Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice)
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Chris G. Demetriou <cgd@erewhon.CS.Berkeley.EDU> writes:
 
>Perhaps some releases of *BSD (e.g. FreeBSD 1.0) weren't exactly... stable?
>with 4M of RAM, but 386BSD worked fine w/4M of ram (it ran on my only
 
I think that it is best to compare using the FreeBSD 1.0 update.  We did have
some problems, but unless someone is misinforming, *all* software releases
have problems.  Truth-in-advertising: take a look at the real Beta release
of FreeBSD vs. the only currently available release of NetBSD (0.9).  Our
-current has startup time of in-memory segments 5X faster than previous and
we are using that as a springboard for some very high performance enhancements.
Being frank, I do not believe that 4MB is a good choice for a serious
development environment (but people stuck with that, I do respect.)  We
have FreeBSD running reliably in 4MB (the OLD problem was a *bug* not a structural
problem.)  And now, we are still planning on *not* ignoring 4MB systems, but
there is only so little optimization that can be done (You are really stuck
with disk I/O.)  Now we are working on improving and re-implementing
algorithms allowing more users, faster response, and better over-all
performance.  FreeBSD-current has real and significant algorithmic improvements
that are not NOT based on previous versions and are new work.  The goal
of FreeBSD is NOT to compete, but to get a stable and reliable platform.
 
Summing up -- I *still* think that it is impressive to run X in 4MB!!!  First
of all after all of the research and statistics that I have done, and the
severe lack of locality of reference, I think that it is great for any OS
to do it as efficiently as FreeBSD!!!!
 
John
dyson@implode.root.com