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Path: sserve!manuel!munnari.oz.au!news.hawaii.edu!ames!agate!soda.berkeley.edu!adam From: adam@soda.berkeley.edu (Adam J Richter) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd Subject: Copyright infringement added to AT&T suit? Date: 30 Jul 1992 21:22:25 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 39 Message-ID: <159mihINNbfe@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <9207231306.AA06854@GRANNY.CS.NYU.EDU> <4442@hq.hq.af.mil> <159ld6INNmmu@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu On Tuesday, I had a telephone conversation with Larry Lankel of USL yesterday. Larry told me that AT&T is indeed the majority shareholder of USL. Therefore, it is reasonable to pressure AT&T to change USL's actions. Larry claimed that USL has added copyright infringement to the lawsuit and that USL has found "specific and substantive" sections of code that "were copied or could not have been written without looking at the [USL] source code." However, Larry also told me that USL will not reveal which sections of the BSD Net 2 code that it claims to be able to restrict. It seems to me that even if the the dubious claim that a section of code could not have been written without looking at the original were found to be true that that would necessarily establish copyright infringement. For example, either of the following might be defenses against such a copyright infringement claim: 1. "We had to look at the code to copy some of the ideas, but we did not copy the expression." 2. "The expression and functionality were inseparably interwined and there was only a limited number of ways to implement this functionality." I am not a lawyer. This is just my layman's understanding of the law; it is not legal advice. For legal advice, consult a lawyer. If some enterprising person would like to make AT&T's filings available for anonymous FTP, the copy department of the US district court in New Jersey can be reached at (201) 645-4565 until 4:30pm on weekdays. -- Adam J. Richter 409 Evelyn Avenue, Apt. 312 richter@cerf.net Albany, CA 94706 (510)528-3209 Another member of the League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu).